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Half French, Half Algerian. Mon famile came over here after WW2. Now, I guess the Algerian side can hate the French side of my family, but the race crap, and yes, it is crap, here.... 2 words:
DON'T CARE
There are no societal answers, there definitely is no government answer, there is no education answer.... there is a personal answer and that's it.
Yep sure, we're supposed to forget hundreds of years of race-based brutality because someone waved a magic wand a few years back and that makes us all equal.
From my perspective, it's akin to the 'gaslighting effect', or crazy-making.
Yes, but those philosophies shaped the outcome for many American blacks. And you should be able to acknowledge that. That is why newly arrived blacks that come from Africa and the Caribbean often outperform American Blacks.
Vikings conquered and oppressed my ancestors in England.
I've managed to get over it.
A third of all Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. Jews are doing fine today.
A third of all Cambodians were murdered by Pol Pot. Cambodians are doing fine today.
Whites -- and whites alone -- outlawed slavery throughout most of the world.
There are a couple of countries like Mauritania where it is still practiced.
Mauritania is not a white country.
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Originally Posted by Natural510
Yep sure, we're supposed to forget hundreds of years of race-based brutality because someone waved a magic wand a few years back and that makes us all equal.
Actually, no one made us equal.
Before, it was blacks who were legally discriminated against.
Now it is whites who are legally discriminated against through racial preferences that favor non-whites over whites.
I don't hear you complaining about that.
So there is no reason for me to care about your complaints.
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So what is your solution other posting the same annoying thread over and over, Mr. LIberal White Boy?
Slavery went on from 1619 to 1865
Jim Crow 1877-1965
Blacks have only experience some sense of freedom for a bit more than 50 years.
Most black Americans are descendant of slaves.
It is not the same thing to be the son of a slave than to be the son of a merchant, a farm owner, a businessman, a doctor, a lawyer, a police officer, a school teacher, etc, etc.
Blacks started at ZERO and had ZERO education or training. They had no one to look up to as the families were broken apart.
American Blacks have done phenomenally well given the original position from where they started. And 51 years is not a long time since the end of Jim Crow.
Most people of European heritage like myself can look back for 500-1000 years of successful heritage where families were together and values were passed down. Blacks could not pass anything down because there was no family.
Some American blacks found a way to somehow have a family and those folks have done very well and surpassed many whites.
Oppression from 1619 until 1965 created a generation of people that was overtly sensitive to perceived racism. They have lived in stress for hundreds of years and that explains the hypersensitivity to cops and authority.
You are correct. Said another way....of nearly 4 centuries of blacks in these lands, over 90% of that time has been under legalized racial oppression.
Today....black people know that there is a lot of racism out there. Its not just in our minds. Do we always get it right 100% of the time......NO! Do the police always arrest the RIGHT people...NO! Its human to error and unfortunately its human to deceive and people are not always honest and will play the "race card" or the "criminal card" (to treat someone worse than need be....like killing them).
That having been said, there are no longer self expressed racist. It means nothing to hear people deny that they are racist....when even the Klan denies that they are these days. Racism, thus, only exists if it can be PROVEN and how do you prove what is in a persons mind....especially when they know to avoid certain words and phrases.
If you take away the racial epithets of the language in this country during the 60's.....you have the same arguments and reasoning as today. Hence, by today's standards, if you simply removed the racial epithets and explicit claims, there was no racism in 1960 and it could not be used as an excuse for the black conditions back then. Racism, to many, is only recognized by explicit words and phrases. Its an overt anti-black pronouncement made with hate. However, the racism is really in the REASONING. That is the FOUNDATION, not words and phrases...or even the emotion of hate. People today refuse to see their racism and don't really even operate from the official definition of racism....because they seek to avoid self incrimination which would come with that knowledge. A racist is correctly seen as a social deviant today....like a pedophile or something. Thus, the desire not to see themselves or have others see you as a social deviant compels people to redefine what racism, so that it does not match what they are.....OR.....argue that everyone is that way....including blacks, thus making it a NORM and not a social deviation that they suffer from.
If you don't want race to be an issue, STOP making it an issue.
Focus on yourself. Black people need to focus on ourselves and do what's in our control to make our situation better. Start with the crumbling structure of the family.
We have racism because some people profit from racism.
You are correct. Said another way....of nearly 4 centuries of blacks in these lands, over 90% of that time has been under legalized racial oppression.
Today....black people know that there is a lot of racism out there. Its not just in our minds. Do we always get it right 100% of the time......NO! Do the police always arrest the RIGHT people...NO! Its human to error and unfortunately its human to deceive and people are not always honest and will play the "race card" or the "criminal card" (to treat someone worse than need be....like killing them).
That having been said, there are no longer self expressed racist. It means nothing to hear people deny that they are racist....when even the Klan denies that they are these days. Racism, thus, only exists if it can be PROVEN and how do you prove what is in a persons mind....especially when they know to avoid certain words and phrases.
If you take away the racial epithets of the language in this country during the 60's.....you have the same arguments and reasoning as today. Hence, by today's standards, if you simply removed the racial epithets and explicit claims, there was no racism in 1960 and it could not be used as an excuse for the black conditions back then. Racism, to many, is only recognized by explicit words and phrases. Its an overt anti-black pronouncement made with hate. However, the racism is really in the REASONING. That is the FOUNDATION, not words and phrases...or even the emotion of hate. People today refuse to see their racism and don't really even operate from the official definition of racism....because they seek to avoid self incrimination which would come with that knowledge. A racist is correctly seen as a social deviant today....like a pedophile or something. Thus, the desire not to see themselves or have others see you as a social deviant compels people to redefine what racism, so that it does not match what they are.....OR.....argue that everyone is that way....including blacks, thus making it a NORM and not a social deviation that they suffer from.
So think about this. What if you were a person who had nothing to do with slavery, yet you have to be constantly reminded about it? What if you had to listen to insinuations daily that you were a closet racist? What if every time you turn on the news, you have to see another black protest (against whites, btw) because someone thinks they are getting a raw deal because their ancestors got a raw deal? What if every time you walked into a store, you had to make sure not to make eye contact with a black person because you don't know what their reaction might be? What if, because of all of the violence you see on TV, you are afraid to let your kids out of your sight for fear of what some black kid might do to them? (I even saw yet another clip on social media yesterday of two 4-5 year old black girls beating on a white girl on the sidewalk while their mother looked on and laughed and another family member FILMED it) What if these are the things you have to live with on a constant basis?
How would that make you feel? If you want to discuss slavery, imagine that the black culture is diligently working towards enslaving whites, even if it is mental enslavement and not physical. Therefore, the very thing blacks are fighting to eliminate is what they are forcing on someone else. And the people that are suffering from it are NOT the same people who enslaved their ancestors.
Blacks talk about the disadvantages that they have in comparison to whites, yet never stop to realize that because of the actions of many black people today, the majority of whites walk around on egg shells in hopes that we don't have to deal with it again today. It's not only disruptive to white people, but it is equally disruptive to blacks but for some reason they fail to see it.
Why perpetuate hate when you don't have to? I'm not racist, and don't have to pretend. What I am though, is fed up with the whole thing. We could all have a peaceful society if people started living for today and stopped prefacing everything in their life around what happened decades ago. It's a new generation with new opportunities. You can choose to squander those away or use those opportunities to lift yourself up. No one can choose for you. But we're at a tipping point right now where many of us are tired of the struggle that we don't deserve. In a way, by constantly telling us we are racist and acting out against us, you are creating the very monsters you claim to want to fight.
Think about this....... you CHOSE the name Indentured Servant... meaning you are choosing to label yourself as a slave in a time where it does not exist. You're no more a slave than I. Why not choose something that empowers you instead of ties you down? It's a mentality that we all must break free from if we ever hope to find peace.
As to why racial issues seem to have gotten worse instead of better over the last 10-20 years the answer is simple. It's because people like you figured out that racial divisiveness gives you an advantage in elections. Divide and conquer, right?
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