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Old 07-19-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: DFW
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A bunker under the house would be cool !
A safe space for every paranoid liberal and their offspring
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Old 07-19-2016, 09:53 PM
 
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We can all agree there is a power struggle to undermine the United States.


Soros and other Globalist work very hard to dissolve the US as we know it. These same enemies of the US recentful of Americans are independent. Americans are individuals not part of a order.


Most Americans do Believe in Law and order. Most are considerate of their neighbors.


This is why there is some who wishes to undermine America.

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Old 07-19-2016, 10:09 PM
 
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Worrying about people who, at the end of the day, ain't gonna do a daggone thing except sit on chat forums like this and run their mouths about what they WISH they could do

Just remember one basic tenet of the internet...when you click that li'l red X in the corner, or the log-off button here on C-D, they and all their overheated barking vanish into the ether

Knowing that, and knowing none of them will actually bust the hull on a grape in real life, keeps me happy
I said that earlier it's a very safe place for them of vent. So let them continue to hide behind the keyboards.
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:57 PM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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Y'all know that big batches of black people still think ALL white people,especially cops are out to get them.
Remember back in the '80s when the hysteria was white people in government invented and purposely poured crack cocaine into the 'hood to kill and enslave blacks.

The hysterical reaction of BLM to police actions today no matter the cause remain remarkably similar.

Hmmm, interesting...
Do you have examples from the 1980s to substantiate what you are saying? Here are Aberbach and Walker, published in 1970, about white reactions to BP:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1953839...n_tab_contents

And I know that "big batches" was my term, and it is hardly quantifiable in any real sense. But I doubt that as large, proportionally, of black people think "ALL white people, especially cops, are out to get them." First of all, by making such a broad assertion, i.e., "all white people," you are making it instantly falsifiable. Even if you found a substantial number of black people who thought what you assert, if any of them actually think that "most" white people are out to get them, your assertion is false.

In any case, I've provided a then-contemporary (to the Black Power Movement) scholarly source you may peruse at your leisure. What's interesting to me is that you ignored the 19th-Century examples of some white over-reactions that I gave entirely.
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Old 07-19-2016, 11:08 PM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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They thought that because that was the actual intent. Listen to Elaine Brown, a member of the Black Panther Party's Central Committee and their Minister of Information, discussing in her own words how the BPP's goal was the destruction of the US government, the end of capitalism in the US, and the "institution of a socialist scheme." The relevant part starts at about 7:00 in this NatGeo documentary clip, if you wish to FF...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=lLM_QyX6sto
I'm relatively well-versed on both the BPP and Black Power (two separate, though related, things, by the way). You can see Peniel Joseph among others for more.

As for Elaine Brown and the BPP started in Oakland a couple of years after cries of Black Power rang out near Jackson, MS, of course the BPP wanted a *separate* base of power. In fact, their ten-point program as well as other founding documents cribbed heavily from the "Declaration" and its justification of a separation from (as distinct from an overthrow of) an oppressive, and in adherents' eyes, illegitimate form of government. The BPP and Black Power were in no way shorthand for each other, despite what J. Edgar Hoover may have imagined in his wildest COINTELPRO excesses.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I'm relatively well-versed on both the BPP and Black Power (two separate, though related, things, by the way). You can see Peniel Joseph among others for more.

As for Elaine Brown and the BPP started in Oakland a couple of years after cries of Black Power rang out near Jackson, MS, of course the BPP wanted a *separate* base of power. In fact, their ten-point program as well as other founding documents cribbed heavily from the "Declaration" and its justification of a separation from (as distinct from an overthrow of) an oppressive, and in adherents' eyes, illegitimate form of government.
Someone (YOU) didn't watch the NatGeo documentary I posted and didn't listen to Elaine Brown (BPP Central Committee Member and their Minister of Information) tell it like it was in her own words.

I suggested skipping to the 7:00 mark, but YOU need to watch the whole clip. Elaine begins speaking at 6:19.

No need for you to be a revisionist when we can hear a principal participant tell us exactly how it was.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=lLM_QyX6sto
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:13 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Alex Jones... enough said.

I honestly suspect Alex Jones of being a shill for the establishment, used to misdirect and discredit people who realize there something wrong with the powers that be and their globalist. His very name is enough to discredit his ideas and supporters in the minds of most people.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Another day, another C-D thread from the tin-foil hat wearing, three cans short of a six pack crowd.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:21 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Do you have examples from the 1980s to substantiate what you are saying? Here are Aberbach and Walker, published in 1970, about white reactions to BP:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1953839...n_tab_contents

And I know that "big batches" was my term, and it is hardly quantifiable in any real sense. But I doubt that as large, proportionally, of black people think "ALL white people, especially cops, are out to get them." First of all, by making such a broad assertion, i.e., "all white people," you are making it instantly falsifiable. Even if you found a substantial number of black people who thought what you assert, if any of them actually think that "most" white people are out to get them, your assertion is false.

In any case, I've provided a then-contemporary (to the Black Power Movement) scholarly source you may peruse at your leisure. What's interesting to me is that you ignored the 19th-Century examples of some white over-reactions that I gave entirely.
Google is your friend.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ecial/cia.html
FCN Network News: U.S. Government Pushed Crack in Black 'Hoods
Blacks Were Targeted for CIA Cocaine - It Can Be Proven
Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward
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Old 07-20-2016, 07:24 PM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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Um, and? This is not news, and none of it speaks to the assertions about reactions that jimj posted. And, again, the historical BPP is not the same as the historical Black Power Movement. I'm well aware of the PBS doc as well as several others, including the relevant parts of Eyes on the Prize, another PBS-sponsored source.

I use Google all the time, yet at the same time, libraries > Google.
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