How many guns used in crime are legal vs illegal? (Missouri, invasion)
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That is percentage or numbers of people doing crime like say robbery, burglary , home invasion, gang shootings and killings are legal guns vs illegal guns.
Some people say criminals want guns that cannot be traced to them. Where if you buy a gun at say a gun store or from some one it can be traced to you in a crime.
Where if you buy guns off the streets the black market it cannot be traced to you.
People saying that strict gun control and background checks on people buying guns will not lower guns used in crime like robbery, burglary , home invasion, gang shootings and killings. Only suicide ,domestic violence and crazy people.
Where criminals and gangs want guns that cannot be traced to them so buy guns from the black market.
At some point all firearms can be traced back to a original point of sale, either to a department or a person. I did a brief Google search, this link looks promising:
At some point all firearms can be traced back to a original point of sale, either to a department or a person.
No they can't. Guns have been in the country for hundreds of years, before 1968 they didn't have to have any kind of serial number and couldn't be traced to anyone. Even after that firearms made by individuals don't have to have serial numbers.
Most firearms in the US today could be traced to the first person who bought it, but since most states don't have any registration requirements and many had no requirements at all for transfers from one person to another there is no guarantee at all that the person who originally purchased it is the current owner.
Studies have shown that most criminals get guns from their social network, from people they know, NOT from gun shops or shows.
No they can't. Guns have been in the country for hundreds of years, before 1968 they didn't have to have any kind of serial number and couldn't be traced to anyone. Even after that firearms made by individuals don't have to have serial numbers.
Most firearms in the US today could be traced to the first person who bought it, but since most states don't have any registration requirements and many had no requirements at all for transfers from one person to another there is no guarantee at all that the person who originally purchased it is the current owner.
Studies have shown that most criminals get guns from their social network, from people they know, NOT from gun shops or shows.
Agreed, my point was most guns could be traced back to the original sale; after that is when it gets tough.
Even in a case where I purchased a firearm, later sold that same firearm back to either the same dealer or another dealer, that dealer would then have to have new documentation that firearm has now been transferred to another person. And that cycle can repeat more than once.
The term 'illegal gun' is generally only a reference to a prohibited design or something that had been reported stolen. Another possibility for the description is something that is illegally possessed, as in, the person cannot legally possess a firearm.
Agreed, my point was most guns could be traced back to the original sale; after that is when it gets tough.
Even in a case where I purchased a firearm, later sold that same firearm back to either the same dealer or another dealer, that dealer would then have to have new documentation that firearm has now been transferred to another person. And that cycle can repeat more than once.
What I mean is if some one buys a gun than does a crime it can be traced to you. Well if some one buys a gun from the black market it would be traced to other person. And other thing is gun from black market could of been in the hands of many people.
Also older guns and guns from the black market have been circling in lot of many peoples hands. Where new gun made tomorrow not the case.
Guns sold on the black market don't have all the paper work and make it harder for the police who gun is it . Well guns but at a legal gun dealer have all the paper work.
Studies have shown that most criminals get guns from their social network, from people they know, NOT from gun shops or shows.
I'm no sure I understand what you are saying that criminals and gangs get guns from the black market because they cannot buy guns being big reason or because the gun will not be traced back to them.
The thing I chuckle at is when people clamor for people whose guns have been STOLEN from them to face penalties for having their property STOLEN from them, especially if those guns are used by a criminal in a crime.
Can anyone explain that logic seeing as how we live in a "don't blame the victim" society? Isn't that like charging a woman for not keeping her reproductive organs behind closed doors if she's raped in an alley somewhere?
Some punk crook breaks into YOUR home, STEALS your property, and the gun owner is the one who's looking at charges?
The thing I chuckle at is when people clamor for people whose guns have been STOLEN from them to face penalties for having their property STOLEN from them, especially if those guns are used by a criminal in a crime.
Can anyone explain that logic seeing as how we live in a "don't blame the victim" society? Isn't that like charging a woman for not keeping her reproductive organs behind closed doors if she's raped in an alley somewhere?
Some punk crook breaks into YOUR home, STEALS your property, and the gun owner is the one who's looking at charges?
Yep, that would be like arresting someone whose car is stolen and used in a crime.
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