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Perhaps because there is an element of the meaning of people that implies a collective. At the time of the Constitution, militias represented towns, regions, states (like todays National Guard) as opposed to being simply a collection of individuals operating on their own behalf.
Are you being honest with yourself and us, here? LOL!
Then the word Citizens, would imply more specifically what collective group of people.
What is the difference in People and Citizens? It isn't hard. It just takes intelligence, honesty and knowing what words mean.
The National Guard are paid government employees. Militias are formed without government control. Only once formed can be asked by the President to help.
Probably when the Bill of Rights was drawn up there was no citizens. Don't think the Bill of Rights gas ever been changed, correct me if wrong. Still firearms should be granted only to citizens and citizens who have not been to jail for a violent crime.
When the Declaration of Independence was ratified ALL people who lived in the 13 original colonies AUTOMATICALLY BECAME CITIZENS of the United States.
When the Declaration of Independence was ratified ALL people who lived in the 13 original colonies AUTOMATICALLY BECAME CITIZENS of the United States.
That is all good, but why does the second amendment not say the right of citizens to keep & bear arms, if it was only a right Americans would have?
If we at that moment in time became citizens, why use "people" in the 2nd amendment? What was the thinking there?
Are you being honest with yourself and us, here? LOL!
Then the word Citizens, would imply more specifically what collective group of people.
What is the difference in People and Citizens? It isn't hard. It just takes intelligence, honesty and knowing what words mean.
The National Guard are paid government employees. Militias are formed without government control. Only once formed can be asked by the President to help.
I have been trying to have a reasonable discussion with you, but perhaps that wasn't what you wanted.
I have been trying to have a reasonable discussion with you, but perhaps that wasn't what you wanted.
Very true. I gave him the answer way back there. A citizen at the time the country was founded was a property owner because they could vote. People were citizens and most of the other white men, who could not vote. Women, Indians and blacks were neither. Very few of Irish background were allowed to vote even if they owned property.
Very true. I gave him the answer way back there. A citizen at the time the country was founded was a property owner because they could vote. People were citizens and most of the other white men, who could not vote. Women, Indians and blacks were neither. Very few of Irish background were allowed to vote even if they owned property.
The meaning of citizen never changed. Just who qualifies as one.
Then why the 2nd, doesn't say citizens. It clearly says people.
That is all good, but why does the second amendment not say the right of citizens to keep & bear arms, if it was only a right Americans would have?
If we at that moment in time became citizens, why use "people" in the 2nd amendment? What was the thinking there?
Come out and say it! Be honest.
The ONLY thing honest is you running around in circles looking for arguments.
The ONLY thing honest is you running around in circles looking for arguments.
Look, words have meaning. If the ignorance is so wide spread as to the difference in meaning of Citizen and People and it isn't just being dishonest to push an agenda, we are in serious trouble in our education of our children.
There is a qualifier to vote, but not to buy and have a weapon.
One has to be a citizen of this nation to vote in our elections(there isn't even an age requirement in the 19th or 15th amendments)
One only has to be born and not only born in America, to purchase and keep a weapon on US soil.
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