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Old 08-10-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I'm sorry, but I think the words 'heroic' and 'courageous' should be used for appropriate actions and not something like supporting a different political party.

 
Old 08-10-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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I'm sorry, but I think the words 'heroic' and 'courageous' should be used for appropriate actions and not something like supporting a different political party.
It depends on how you judge his views. If you believe he's correct and chooses to swim upstream against the 99% majority - than you may see courage in that. A lot of people will simply choose to go with the flow when outnumbered instead of voicing a dissenting opinion.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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As a matter of respectful discourse, I don't think anyone should be "attacked" for their views. Nothing wrong with using logical arguments to disagree, but attacks that instantly write someone off for holding a dissenting opinion - i.e. he's an Uncle Tom - what does that accomplish? Granted, I'm sure he welcomes disagreement and debate because he probably didn't get to that position without his views being challenged along the way.


DD will never get this. Yet he/she will work adamantly to throw hatred towards whites instead of realizing that not everyone views us this way and not everyone views the black condition as all negative as DD would prefer to insinuate.


I don't care what political affiliation he has, the author makes very logical and reasonable points. To try to immediately write those off as BS without even giving one second of thought to their merit just goes to show that certain posters have no desire to ever work towards a solution to the race issue. Ever.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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It depends on how you judge his views. If you believe he's correct and chooses to swim upstream against the 99% majority - than you may see courage in that. A lot of people will simply choose to go with the flow when outnumbered instead of voicing a dissenting opinion.


I kind of see some courage in what the author wrote. Not so much on his political affiliation, but his choice to view the world in a more positive light and to stand by his beliefs when a large enough portion of his peers may not share them. It does take some courage to maintain your beliefs and not run and hide when you are criticized for them. It can be dangerous to go against your peers on certain topics. Especially very emotionally driven topics such as race.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 10:33 AM
 
Location: London
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What's up with this election season and everyone treating black voters as a flock of sheep to be herded?

No functioning adult needs to be told who to vote for.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It depends on how you judge his views. If you believe he's correct and chooses to swim upstream against the 99% majority - than you may see courage in that. A lot of people will simply choose to go with the flow when outnumbered instead of voicing a dissenting opinion.
It has nothing to do with how I judge his views, which I'm not even doing. It has to do with who he is, what he's accomplished, and his station in life.

If he was a guy struggling to get by, living in a high crime area, I could see where that would be a courageous position for a black man to make public.

Have you read his bio? I have - I'm weird that way. I read bio's of people who write, perhaps because I'm an author of books.

Here it is:

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johngibbs
John Gibbs (@realJohnGibbs) has worked at Apple as an engineer on the iPhone, and has taught technology in Japan, being fluent in Japanese. John holds a B.S. in computer science from Stanford University and a master in public administration from Harvard University John F. Kennedy School of Government.
This is a man who is most likely in a social circle of wealthy people from all backgrounds, some of whom are probably Republican.

He can afford to be vocal - there's no price attached to it and so, I'm not seeing it as a courageous thing.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with how I judge his views, which I'm not even doing. It has to do with who he is, what he's accomplished, and his station in life.
You are entitled to your opinion of what constitutes courage. However, many may disagree with you. I don't see anything that inherently disqualifies the man from being viewed as courageous.

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If he was a guy struggling to get by, living in a high crime area, I could see where that would be a courageous position for a black man to make public.
This is irrelevant. You don't have to live in the ghetto to face backlash for your opinions.

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This is a man who is most likely in a social circle of wealthy people from all backgrounds, some of whom are probably Republican.
So basically he's not black enough?
 
Old 08-10-2016, 11:24 AM
 
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You are entitled to your opinion of what constitutes courage. However, many may disagree with you. I don't see anything that inherently disqualifies the man from being viewed as courageous.

This is irrelevant. You don't have to live in the ghetto to face backlash for your opinions.

So basically he's not black enough?
Lol...my goodness.

What in the heck do you know about "black enough?"

You're all such experts on blacks.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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As a matter of respectful discourse, I don't think anyone should be "attacked" for their views. Nothing wrong with using logical arguments to disagree, but attacks that instantly write someone off for holding a dissenting opinion - i.e. he's an Uncle Tom - what does that accomplish? Granted, I'm sure he welcomes disagreement and debate because he probably didn't get to that position without his views being challenged along the way.
*SIGH*

Why are you guys so hung up on this Uncle Tom thing? And why do you white conservatives act as if you have to be the protectors of your black conservative lackeys?

Again for the millionth time, black conservatives and their white cohorts LOVE to say that liberal blacks are "on the plantation," and I know damn well that you probably say it too.

Good for the goose...good for the gander..
 
Old 08-10-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Lol...my goodness.

What in the heck do you know about "black enough?"

You're all such experts on blacks.
Why do you assume asking a question infers expert status?

On a side note, do you think someone that isn't black could ever become knowledgable about blackness?
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