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Old 08-29-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Likewise, why was it wrong when Cheney did it, but Clinton gets a free pass? Now who is the hypocrite?
Everyone. Calling someone else is a hypocrite does not absolve guilt. Why is that everyone's goddamn default answer. "But the other guys." Shut up! No one cares. Is no one willing to take accountability?

 
Old 08-29-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Dick Cheney never ran for POTUS. Also, the Clinton Foundation isn't what it appears to be. I thought people realized both of those things.

Charity watchdog: Clinton Foundation a ‘slush fund’ | New York Post

Arab nations

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...&ein=311580204

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...s-never-built/

Chelsea will stay on at the foundation if her "mother" is elected to POTUS thus allowing continued "pay for play" by the Clintons. When you look at what donations did when going to her as SOS, imagine what can be bought by "donors" of the foundation if she is POTUS.

People, Dick Cheney never ran for POTUS. Geesh. Oh, he's not running now either.
Comprehension problem? The comparison was between cheney and Halliburton making lots and lots of money over the Iraq war versus the clinton foundation using money to help people. It wasn't about cheny and clinton running for office.
 
Old 08-29-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Everyone. Calling someone else is a hypocrite does not absolve guilt. Why is that everyone's goddamn default answer. "But the other guys." Shut up! No one cares. Is no one willing to take accountability?
It was wrong for Haliburton to get no bid contract after no bid contract while getting caught over and over ripping off the country under George Bush.

The complaints then were many.

https://www.cs.cornell.edu/gries/how...aliburton.html

Note: The issue of the company Haliburton represents the worst, in terms of conflict of interest and even corruption.

I tried many pages to find a story on this from ABC, CBS, MSNBC or someone from the left condemning it. None were to be found.

Same old, same old: Obama Pentagon Gives $500M 'No Bid' Contract to Halliburton | Rebrn.com

The problem also with Hillary is she is completely untrustworthy. She could run something completely on the up and up but she has lied and pulled stuff so many times she isn't going to be trusted.
 
Old 08-29-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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At least Hillary can say words that have more than one syllable. Have you even listened to Trump ? He has the vocabulary of a 3rd grader. Hillary also says "we" whereas Trump says "I".

Don
Like I said. You may not like trump, I am ok with that. He's a fool many times. But he also is what is he.

But please, don't push hillary off as something more then a clean talking fraud.

for me its about voting for "the same ol'" or voting "something different.". I voted obama 1st term for that reason to. I do have to be careful what I wish for. Obama now has police as the reason people are unsafe.

lmao, yeah, my wife and kids are unsafe at night because a policeman is going to jump them when they answer him

"Yes sir. no sir. Here is my id sir."
 
Old 08-29-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Likewise, why was it wrong when Cheney did it, but Clinton gets a free pass? Now who is the hypocrite?
Cheney did get a free pass, despite griping.
 
Old 08-29-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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Didn't the Obama admin continue to use Halliburton? Is Obama and company on the take as well?
 
Old 08-29-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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Didn't the Obama admin continue to use Halliburton? Is Obama and company on the take as well?
As any logical person knows, there aren't very many companies that are logistically capable of fulfilling many of these contracts. It is why KBR has been used overs and over, regardless of the party of the President or congress, for these jobs.

Of course, the answer to this "problem" is simply staying out of these conflicts to begin with.
 
Old 08-29-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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Likewise, why was it wrong when Cheney did it, but Clinton gets a free pass? Now who is the hypocrite?
Liberal math:

Wrong x 2 = right.

(Especially if a Republican did it first.)
 
Old 08-29-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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Just caught this from our friends at Reverb Press and is easily one of the best pieces i have come across:

So you were OK with Haliburton making billions of dollars off wars while Dick Cheney was in office But now you think the Clinton's should close their charitable organization which saves lives because it's a "conflict of interest"?

You're a special kind of Hypocrite aren't you?

You can find the link here and you'll love the actor in the poster.
"while Dick Cheney was in office'

Cheney was NOT employed by Halliburton when he was V.P.

Do you have any PROOF that Chaney had ANYTHING to do with the contracts that Halliburton got while he was V.P.?

Clinton awarded Halliburton its FIRST no-bid contract.

Where is the outrage about Bill?

"You're a special kind of Hypocrite aren't you?'

I think hypocrite could be applied to YOU.
 
Old 08-29-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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"We" is a word with more than one syllable?






Here, digest this -- Do you find the word "charity" anywhere? Lots of "access" and "influence buying" instead. By the way, why does a donor have to split up donations "to make them look smaller than they actually are" if they're contributing to charity?

And if these monies gained access for 'government action' that was deemed to be beneficial to those governments/companies, why is that money in the Clinton's pocket and not in the Federal treasury for the benefit of the American people?

Just skim these to make your head spin:


The recent release of additional private emails from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email servers based at her New York home provide a clearer picture of the "pay-to-play" connections between Clinton's State Department, her and her husband's Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative, and the private investment consulting and investment firm of Teneo Holdings, Inc. in Manhattan.


Donor Amount given to Clinton Foundation/Global Initiative (CGI)
Received in return Prince of Abu Dhabi and Foreign Minister of the United Arab Emirates Shaikh Abdullah bin Zayed al Nahayan and the Al Nahayan family of Abu Dhabi
<$5,000,000 Access to HRC at State Dept. and a $500,000 environmental speech by Bill Clinton given at the Emirates Palace Hotel in Abu Dhabi while HRC was meeting in Washington with Shaikh Abdullah.

Algeria

$500,000 State clearance for U.S. arms sales to Algeria. Deal included biological and chemical agents.

Australia, Commonwealth of
$75,000,000 Strong State Dept. for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which stands to be a boon for Australian multinational firms.

Bahrain, Kingdom of
$250,000 Muted criticism by State of Bahrain's abysmal human rights practices.

Boeing Corp.
$900,000 State Dept. clearance for $29 billion arms U.S. arms sale to Saudi Arabia, including Boeing's F-15 fighter.

Brunei Darussalam, Sultanate of

$5,000,000 State Dept. clearance for U.S. weapons sales to Brunei.

Cameroon, Republic of
<$100,000 Influence buying by the Cameroon government with the Clinton State Department.

Canada
$500,000 State Dept. support for Canada's Keystone XL pipeline, eventually vetoed by Obama.

Chagoury Group
<$5,000,000 in cash and a $1,000,000,000 pledge
HRC delayed designating Nigeria's Boko Haram as a foreign terrorist organization because of Chagoury Group's investments and operations in Nigeria. Chagoury Group received the "Sustainable Development Award" from the CGI. Chagooury helped the family of Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha hide his wealth stolen from Nigeria's oil revenues.

Confederation of Indian Industry
<$1,000,000 Access for Indian businesses to U.S. government officials

Corning, Inc.
$150,000 Clinton arranged for international access for the New York-based firm.

Dahdaleh, Victor
<$5,000,000 Lobbyist for Bahrain state-owned aluminum company who sought a contract between the Bahraini firm and the U.S.-owned Alcoa World Alumina.

Dominican Republic
<$25,000,000 Clinton Foundation board member Rolando Gonzalez's company InterEnergy received contracts from Dominican government for wind energy projects. The firm received Domican President's Gold Citizen Award in 2010.

Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA)
<$100,000 State pressure on Justice Dept. to curtail criminal investigation of FIFA.

Fernwood Foundation (Canadian foundation run by Canadian uranium mining mogul Ian Telfer
$2,600,000 Telfer's UrAsia and Uranium One Corporations, co-owned with Canadian mining magnate and "Friend of Bill" Frank Giustra receved favorable uranium mining deals with Kazakhstan and Russia's ROSATOM and Kazakhstan's KAZATOMPROM.

Flanders, Government of
€780,000 ($872,000) High-level access to U.S. government officials by Flemish government officials and businesses.

GEMS Education, Dubai
$5,600,000 Bill Clinton made "honorary chairman" of the Dubai company.

Germany, Federal Republic of
$250,000 High-level access to U.S. government officials by German officials and businessmen.

Giustra, Frank (Canadian mining magnate) (Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership/Radcliffe Foundation)
$31,300,000 State soft-peddled threat of the Islamic State because Lafarge had negotiated with the terrorists to maintain its operations in ISIL-controlled territory in Syria. arranged favorable deals with Kazakhstan and its president, Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Hindustan Construction Corp. (India)
<$500,000 Access for corporate officials to U.S. government officials.

Ireland, Republic of
<$158,300,000 Influence-buying by Irish government with the Clintons.

Italy, Republic of
$100,000 Influence buying by the Italian government with the Clinton State Department.

Jamaica
$100,000 Digicel Group, owned by Irish billionaire and Friend of Bill, Denis O'Brien, received USAID grant for a telecommunications project in Jamaica. Digicel (Jamaica) paid Bill Clinton $225,000 for a speech in Kingston. That was in addition to the $100,000 kicked in by Jamaica to the
Clinton Foundation.

Kuwait, Emirate of
$10,000,000 State Dept. clearance for U.S. weapons sales to Kuwait.

Lafarge Group
<$100,000 State soft-peddled threat of Islamic State (ISIL) in Syria because Lafarge had an agreement with ISIL not to interfere in Lafarge activities in ISIL-controlled territory in Syria.
HRC was a director of Lafarge between 1990 and 1992, at a time when the firm was selling strategic military materials to Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Lesotho, Kingdom of
<$100,000 Kickback from $11.2 million Irish grant to Clinton Foundation for HIV/AIDS abatement in Lesotho.

Mittal, Lakshmi, owner of ArcelorMittal, a major steel company, and board member of Goldman Sachs
<$5,000,000 Favorable opportunities in Kazakhstan, where Mittal is a member of the Foreign Investment Council of Kazakhstan. Dovetails with Bill Clinton's uranium deals with Giustra and Nazarbayev.

Sheikh Mohammed H. Al Amoudi (Ethiopian-Saudi billionaire)1
<$10,000,000 Influence-buying within the Clinton State Dept.

Monsanto
<$5,000,000 State advocated for Monsanto "Frankenfood" and "Frankenseeds" worldwide.

Netherlands, Kingdom of the (Netherlands National Lottery)
$10,000,000 State helped open up investment opportunities for Dutch firms in Africa.

New Zealand, Government of
$1,200,000 Influence-buying within the Clinton State Dept.

Norway, Kingdom of
$89,600,000 Norwegian government split up donations to make them look smaller than they actually were. Norwegian firms received investment opportunities in the developing world, courtesy of the U.S. Millennium Goals Corporation.

Oman, Sultanate of
<$5,000,000 State clearance for U.S. weapons sales to Oman.

Papua New Guinea, Government of
<$100,000 Influence-buying within the Clinton State Dept.

Qatar, Emirate of
<$5,000,000 State Dept. approval for U.S. arms sales to Qatar. State pressure on Justice Dept. to curtail investigation of bribery payments regarding FIFA and 2022 World Cup host, Qatar.

Ras al Khaimah, Emirate of
$50,000 Influence-buying within the Clinton State Dept.

Rwanda, Republic of
$200,000 Influence-buying with HRC's State Department.

Saudi Arabia, Kingdom of
$25,000,000 State Dept. approval for U.S. arms sales to Saudi Arabia

Suzlon Energy, Ltd. (Amsterdam)
<$5,000,000 State and CGI promoted wind turbine solutions in developing countries. Suzlon, owned by an Indian national, is a leading supplier of wind turbines.

Swaziland, Kingdom of
<$100,000 Access to U.S. government officials for Swazi government/private business leaders.

Sweden, Kingdom of
$7,200,000 Access to U.S. government officials for Swedish government/private business leaders.

Switzerland, Confederation of
$325,000 Access to U.S. government officials for Swiss government/private business leaders

Tenerife Island, Government of
$50,000 High-level access to U.S. government officials by Flemish government officials and businesses.

Taiwan
$10,000,000 State Dept. approval for U.S. weapons sales to Taiwan.

United Arab Emirates
<$5,000,000 State Dept. approval for U.S. weapons sales to the UAE.

United Kingdom
£50,000,000 ($78,000,000) Access for key UK officials and UK businesses to key U.S.government policymakers.

Victor Pinchuk Foundation (Ukraine)
$8,600,000 Buy influence with Clinton at State to pressure Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to free jailed former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

Walmart, Inc.
<$5,000,000 HRC pressured Indian government to open up India to Walmart, an action opposed by India's small retailers.

I'll ask again: WHY ARE THESE DONATIONS ENRICHING CLINTON POCKETS AND NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
"
Do you know this man?



He is Edward "Ed" Mezvinsky, born January 17, 1937. Then you'll probably say,
"Who is Ed Mezvinsky?"


Well, he is a former Democrat congressman who represented Iowa's 1st
congressional district in the United States House of Representatives for two terms, from 1973 to 1977.

He sat on the House Judiciary Committee that decided the fate of Richard Nixon.

He was outspoken saying that Nixon was a crook and a disgrace to politics and the nation and should be impeached.

He and the Clintons were friends and very politically intertwined for many years.

Ed Mezvinsky had an affair with NBC News reporter Marjorie Sue Margolies and
later married her after his wife divorced him.

In 1993, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, then a freshman Democrat in Congress, cast
the deciding vote that got President Bill Clinton's controversial tax package through the House of Representatives.

In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 counts
of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud.

Ed Mezvinsky
embezzledmore than $10 million dollars from people via both a Ponzi scheme and the notorious Nigerian e-mail scams.

He was found guilty and sentenced to 80 months in federal prison.


After serving less than five years in federal prison, he was releasedin April 2008 and remains on federal probation.

To this day, he still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims.


About now you are saying, "So what!"

Well, this is Marc and Chelsea Mezvinsky.

That's right;
EdMezvinskyisChelseaClinton'sfather-inlaw.

Now Marc and Chelsea are in their early thirties and purchased a $10.5 million dollar NYC apartment (after being
married in George Soros' mansion).

Has anyone heard mention of any of this in any of the media?

If this guy was Jenna or Barbara Bush's, or better yet, Sarah Palin's daughter's father-in- law, the news would be an everyday headline and every detail would be reported
over and over.

And yet they say there are no double standards in political reporting.

And people are already talking about Hillarious as our next President!

And then there is possibly Chelsea for president in our future!


Chelsea Clinton earned $600,000 a year when working for NBC and now works for the Clinton Foundation and sits on many boards.

Thecycleneverends!

Lying and corruption seem to make some candidates more popular.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because
wedestroyedourselves." ~ ~ Abraham Lincoln."
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