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Old 09-02-2016, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Nice try OP...a swing and a miss.


There's a huge disconnect between the media and America. The media votes 95% Democrat in the last election while the USA is about 50-50 especially when you consider Republicans control the House, Senate and the overwhelming majority of states. Hence, the media is way out of step with Americans.


Btw, San Franciscans are out of touch with Americans as well.


Peace
Are you actually an expat? If so, you are definitely out of touch with Americans (and yes, for a while I was an expat).
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Thread fail, as the above exemplifies it. BTW I graduated , though a business major, at a university which is superb in radio news, to the extent of producing many execs at some of the largest news stations. (And I know several of them personally in the Northeast)


Your above statement would have Cronkite throwing up. On air, they should, if they respect their profession, simply report the news, and appear impartial. By not doing so, they have destroyed, forever, their credibility. In many surveys, where at one time they were viewed favorably by a decent % of citizens, they achieve that rating with <10%. They deserve that loss of credibility - they worked hard for that drop.


In short, they all became Ted Baxters. America is laughing at them, not with them now.
You bring Walter Cronkite. And yet which newscaster was it that was so influential that after his opinion piece on the Tet Offensive led LBJ to say, "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America."?
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Fox is main stream media so using your argument I guess they have no bias towards Republicans.

I can see the bias in news reporting in Fox, your problem is the inability of seeing the left leaning bias in most other news sources.
I don't know about Ambient, but I propose you do this: Randomly pick 10 people off the street. Give them a sheet of paper with 10 facts about some specific political topic. Have them sit down and write a short news column about those 10 facts. You'll have a number of different slants on the facts.

Naturally there's some bias in EVERYONE...including a bias you just demonstrated in your post.
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Old 09-02-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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lolol. What a crock of baloney.

The only lunatic fringe is the passel of memo-sharing, report-coordinating news readers who've been tripping over each other to ensure that "their guy" (the Hildebeest) wins. Someone clearly missed their recent loud, wide-eyed rants in defense of that vile hag. There's no longer even a pretense of unbiased reporting....which is what gives rise to posts like the OP's.

You've "explained" nothing. So stop getting indignant in an effort to address your party's continued bias in favor of the left.
And of course, that rant you just did was not at all biased.
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Old 09-02-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Bias? Complete embrace of collectivist / socialist doctrines would be a more realistic assessment.

The Democrats' only goal is to stamp out the healthy skepticism toward centralization of authority which is the means by which they expand their power structure; and unless they're stopped, we'll end up with something as foul as anything Marx or Hitler could have dreamed up.
A dictionary example of hyperbole.
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Old 09-02-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Generally the national media tries to support views that they feel are mainstream views. Sometimes they quickly turn on a story when the national sentiment changes, an example being Nelson Mandela's portrayal going from a terrorist to a victim in a matter of months in the early 1990s. The media is mostly made up of people who live in NYC or LA, are non religious, etc so they come from that slant and some times it's obvious that they are out of touch with middle America.


The most obvious example of Left Wing bias I've seen is the media mostly refuses to cover when sitting Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that "abortion's goal is to reduce the numbers of people we don't want too many of", a clear reference to Blacks. As crude as Trump is I have never heard he support targeting certain racial groups for abortion. I was really shocked when prominent PBS Black newswoman Gwen Ifil saved the story for last on the show and laughed about it.
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:36 PM
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Generally the national media tries to support views that they feel are mainstream views. Sometimes they quickly turn on a story when the national sentiment changes, an example being Nelson Mandela's portrayal going from a terrorist to a victim in a matter of months in the early 1990s. The media is mostly made up of people who live in NYC or LA, are non religious, etc so they come from that slant and some times it's obvious that they are out of touch with middle America.


The most obvious example of Left Wing bias I've seen is the media mostly refuses to cover when sitting Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that "abortion's goal is to reduce the numbers of people we don't want too many of", a clear reference to Blacks. As crude as Trump is I have never heard he support targeting certain racial groups for abortion. I was really shocked when prominent PBS Black newswoman Gwen Ifil saved the story for last on the show and laughed about it.
Sorry but the non religious are the only voters who are not guided by false beliefs. Leave your religious beliefs in the church where they belong and stop trying to peddle your nonsense to those who are rational thinkers.
Nobody is pedaling abortion, what they are pedaling is a choice of weather or not to stop an unwanted, unborn child from being a burden on society. Our prisons and welfare system is already overloaded with unwanted people.
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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That's because nobody listens, just like nobody watches MSNBC. Being informed isn't the priority of the average Liberal voter, which makes sense, given that liberalism is built on emotion, and not on fact


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On the other hand, FOX News is often just about tied with Nickelodeon...and the 2 networks appeal to just about the same intellect level.
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Old 09-02-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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I identify as a moderate Republican. While fiscally conservative, I am more liberal on social issues. Anyone with a shred of intellectual honesty can plainly see there is a left leaning bias. From Twitter and Facebook getting caught out altering trending topics to favor Clinton, and MSNBC and CNN openly acting as an extension of the Clinton campaign, it's obvious. That doesn't mean that there aren't right leaning elements in the media as well. FOX News, and talk radio are prime examples.

That brings us to the primary difference between liberals and conservatives. Whereas conservatives are happy to point out said bias, with the hopes that people see for themselves, liberals try to actively silence voices of opposition. They do this through boycott campaigns, through attacks on advertisers, and through legislative efforts. See the "fairness doctrine" that Bill Clinton's administration pushed for in the 90s as a prime example.

I would argue that conservatives (not all Republicans) are not alone in their shift to ideological extremes. Progressives (not all Democrats) have made a huge jump to the left as well. Neither movement represents the majority of the electorate any more, and that is part of the reason that non-establishment candidates saw some success during the primaries. Most Americans are moderates, be it left or right leaning, but mainly middle of the road folks. They don't identify with Evangelist/hyper-conservatives anymore than they identify with the Socialist/Anarchist/or Communist elements of the far left.
While I don't really agree with you, I read your post with interest because you seem relatively balanced about the overall issue.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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I love the ignore feature, makes some threads smooth like butter.
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