The "Southern Strategy" Myth: Racist Southern Dems Became GOP After Civil Rights in 60s (legal, speech)
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Most of the racist southern democrats who were of voting age to institute Jim Crow have died for the most part.
Just google search a Bill Clinton speach and see if it would be a democrat party of today. In twenty years the democrats have gone so far left that Bill Clinton would be a modern day republican.
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Originally Posted by shooting4life
The Republican Party treats people equally, but by holding the same standards for everyone makes you a racist in modern American. Why democrats think minorities are so incapable is beyond me.
You didnt answer the question, which is about the ideologies of white people in the deep south.
The South was heavily Democratic up until maybe 10 years ago. Those white Democrats surely didnt all die within the last 10 years.
Well, how do you explain the fact that Republicans today are the party associated with out-and-out racists, homophobes, and xenophobes?
We promote liberty. We do not have to agree with them, but we do not deny their right to be individuals, different then each other. We understand, that no 2 people are the same. We do not wish to silence them or totally eliminate them, but only to reason with them, why it may be counter productive in their goal of peace and harmony.
The big tent is about individuals, not groups.
Yeah, the Republican party treats people equally, but...
Government recognizing gay relationships? No way.
Implicit remarks about blacks being lazy moochers? Sure...
Any recognition of systemic racism still existing? Nope.
Any recognition of sexism existing anywhere in the workplace? Never!
All Muslims portrayed as the same (i.e., dangerous terrorists)? You bet!
Suspicion of foreigners? Yeah...
Dislike of "diversity" and "multiculturalism?" Indeed.
Proud of Confederate flags and slave ownership days as "heritage?" Of course!
Telling blacks that they were better off before civil rights? Yes.
Fretting over America becoming "less white?" Yep!
So riddle me that one, batman. How is it that Republicans today are such the party of minorities and equal rights across the board when their words and deeds point to these kinds of things?
You just described the establishment in both parties.
You didnt answer the question, which is about the ideologies of white people in the deep south.
The South was heavily Democratic up until maybe 10 years ago. Those white Democrats surely didnt all die within the last 10 years.
The myth is that all the racist democrats became racist republicans in the 60's yet none of the elected racists democrats changed party affiliation, they all remained racist democrats for decades.
Democrats own Jim Crow and the racists history of this nation. They can try and pin it on republicans all they want, but history will speak the truth. More republicans voted for given women the right to vote than democrats, more republicans voted for the civil rights act than democrats, and republicans fought against slavery while democrats supported it.
Now if a republican says everyone should have an ID to vote they are racists because democrats believe minorities are some how unable to complete the simplest task of having some form of ID which is required in every other facet of life.
The soft bigotry of low expectations runs deep in the modern day democrat party and this will only change once minorities stop being divided into groups and then pitted against each other for the betterment of ruling democrats.
That's what gets me about Democrats' group identity politics. I might like an individual person, and dislike the group. But that's taboo. Democrats position is, you don't have to like any of the individuals but you must like the group. It's insincere group identity politics.
The myth is that all the racist democrats became racist republicans in the 60's yet none of the elected racists democrats changed party affiliation, they all remained racist democrats for decades.
Democrats own Jim Crow and the racists history of this nation. They can try and pin it on republicans all they want, but history will speak the truth. More republicans voted for given women the right to vote than democrats, more republicans voted for the civil rights act than democrats, and republicans fought against slavery while democrats supported it.
Now if a republican says everyone should have an ID to vote they are racists because democrats believe minorities are some how unable to complete the simplest task of having some form of ID which is required in every other facet of life.
The soft bigotry of low expectations runs deep in the modern day democrat party and this will only change once minorities stop being divided into groups and then pitted against each other for the betterment of ruling democrats.
We had this discussion a long time ago (probabaly about 2 years) and then I gave you a list of over 100 Republicans elected through out the South who changed parties from U.S. Senators to mayors of cities with populations over 100,0000.
Also, lets be clear. you dont have to leave a party, to leave its establishment. George Wallace proved that. The truth of the matter is, Civil rights ran along geographical lines, more so than Party as Southern Republicans ran on the exact same platforms of racial injustice. Southern Republicans in congress voted right along with Southern Democrats.
You are trying to blame a party when you should be blaming an ideology, but you dont want to call Conservatives out for that. And no, not all Conservatives supported it, but it wasnt liberals who were supporting Jim Crow. Wallace spent half his speeches attacking the Liberal Democrats.
Most of the racist southern democrats who were of voting age to institute Jim Crow have died for the most part.
Just google search a Bill Clinton speach and see if it would be a democrat party of today. In twenty years the democrats have gone so far left that Bill Clinton would be a modern day republican.
Goddamned JFK would be called a fascist nowadays. "Ask not what your country can do for you? Thats dog whistle racism!"
We promote liberty. We do not have to agree with them, but we do not deny their right to be individuals, different then each other. We understand, that no 2 people are the same. We do not wish to silence them or totally eliminate them, but only to reason with them, why it may be counter productive in their goal of peace and harmony.
The big tent is about individuals, not groups.
Yeah, so then why did you go so far out of your way to marginalize gay people and not allow them to have legally-recognized relationships?
Why do you smear all Muslims as anti-American?
Why do you put such pride into slavery-era "heritage?"
Why do you refuse to recognize the possibility that there may be racial bias in the actions of some people in uniform?
You just described the establishment in both parties.
I have a good memory. I know damn well who was opposed to gay marriage and fought like hell to defeat it. It was Republicans and people like you, not Democrats and people like me.
We had this discussion a long time ago (probabaly about 2 years) and then I gave you a list of over 100 Republicans elected through out the South who changed parties from U.S. Senators to mayors of cities with populations over 100,0000.
Also, lets be clear. you dont have to leave a party, to leave its establishment. George Wallace proved that. The truth of the matter is, Civil rights ran along geographical lines, more so than Party as Southern Republicans ran on the exact same platforms of racial injustice. Southern Republicans in congress voted right along with Southern Democrats.
You are trying to blame a party when you should be blaming an ideology, but you dont want to call Conservatives out for that. And no, not all Conservatives supported it, but it wasnt liberals who were supporting Jim Crow. Wallace spent half his speeches attacking the Liberal Democrats.
You can deny your parties history all you want. Democrats even had a member of the KKK in congress until the late 90's/early 2000's.
Next your going to tell me it was really conservative democrats who wanted to keep women from voting and conservative democrats along geographic lines who fought against slavery and it was really liberal republicans who past the 12th, 13th and 14th amendment.
It's like I'm reading something from the ministry of truth.
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