Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:28 AM
 
34,619 posts, read 21,621,539 times
Reputation: 22232

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
How being dependent on selling your disposable arse to the big (and) small corporations is more morally superior? Government is the only way to affect decisions of the private corporate tyrannies, it is a main reason right wingers just like Pavlov' dogs are conditioned to hate government and love supreme and unrestricted corporate masters.
When the government FORCED young men to go to Vietnam and die there in order to impose its will on people on the other side of the planet, that was worse than the CHOICE those same young men had to shop or get a paycheck?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
63,919 posts, read 46,748,172 times
Reputation: 20674
Gravy is a huge variable.

How many people are employed by the industrial military complex that Eisenhower warned about?

The US has a long history of sticking its beak where it does not belong and constantly stirs the pot.

The US does not seem to care who buys our war toys, so long as they keep buying.

Short of funds? No problem. The US will borrow $ to buy friends who will buy US war toys.
Ethical and human rights issues? No problem. The US will look the other way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:42 AM
 
6,326 posts, read 6,592,679 times
Reputation: 7457
Quote:
Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
When the government FORCED young men to go to Vietnam and die there in order to impose its will on people on the other side of the planet, that was worse than the CHOICE those same young men had to shop or get a paycheck?
Top government officials have this tendency to oscillate between government and their cushy corporate jobs. It is impossible to separate government and corporate interests. Right wingers teach rank&file dupes to hate government just to turn around and use the very same government to advance their class interests. Government is a tool. Rank&file right wingers are conditioned to believe that using government tools to their own benefit is reprehensible. And ruling class just grabs that tool and smashes a money vault without shame or regrets.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
30,253 posts, read 23,742,275 times
Reputation: 38639
Quote:
Originally Posted by DorianRo View Post
Do you believe that is a big reason why people want the liberals to stay in power?
It's a combination of things. Telling people that they might have to work for themselves scares some, and they will continue to vote for those who want to give them handouts.

However, another part is that we have a lot of politically uneducated people in this country - even those who actually do vote are uneducated about how our government works, what politician believes in what, what they want to do, etc. Far too many people still rely on the media to tell them what to think - and that is literally exactly how it is: Tell them what to think.

People don't want to read. You see that on this forum when someone posts something long, or even more than just a few sentences - those posts are glossed over, or you will get some idiot posting that they don't want to read all of that. See that all over the internet, actually.

People don't want to have to think. It's like they don't want to be educated. Politics is "boring" to some, so just tell them who to vote for - make it sound nice so that they can feel good when they mark their ballots.

If people actually thought for themselves, the useless media would have been destroyed long ago.

Scare people, tell them that the other side hates you (racism, homophobes, trying to shove their Bibles down your throat, want you to die in the streets, and any other complete and utter nonsense that they come up with), word your own message in a way that makes people feel good, nevermind the actual truth, pretend to care about them, (maybe put some hot sauce in your bag or take on a fake accent), and they'll vote.

What was that guy's name who was caught saying that the majority of their voter base was stupid? He was right.

Gruber:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6wljfbRaDM

Shouldn't have said it, but he wasn't wrong, either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:51 AM
 
6,326 posts, read 6,592,679 times
Reputation: 7457
Quote:
Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Let's see here.

You can CHOOSE to not do business with McDonald's.

Can you also CHOOSE not to do business with the IRS?

You think the MASTER is the one you can CHOOSE to ignore. Absolutely hysterical.
You cannot choose not to sell your arse to the corporate collective directly or indirectly . Why do you need an illusion of being an independent agent when you are a peasant on the corporate farm, a peasant who believes that his lord&masters should be unaccountable and unrestricted?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:53 AM
 
34,058 posts, read 17,081,326 times
Reputation: 17213
Quote:
Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Let's see here.

You can CHOOSE to not do business with McDonald's.

Can you also CHOOSE not to do business with the IRS?

You think the MASTER is the one you can CHOOSE to ignore. Absolutely hysterical.

Correct. In dealing with private business, we all make individual decisions.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: So Cal
52,268 posts, read 52,700,922 times
Reputation: 52779
I have a coworker that would just love it if the government ran every facet of our lives. Cradle to grave molly coddling is what this dumbass wants. He makes me sick and he's an embarrassment to manhood. Pathetic wimp.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:01 AM
 
6,326 posts, read 6,592,679 times
Reputation: 7457
Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
It's a combination of things. Telling people that they might have to work for themselves scares some, and they will continue to vote for those who want to give them handouts.

However, another part is that we have a lot of politically uneducated people in this country - even those who actually do vote are uneducated about how our government works, what politician believes in what, what they want to do, etc. Far too many people still rely on the media to tell them what to think - and that is literally exactly how it is: Tell them what to think.

People don't want to read. You see that on this forum when someone posts something long, or even more than just a few sentences - those posts are glossed over, or you will get some idiot posting that they don't want to read all of that. See that all over the internet, actually.

People don't want to have to think. It's like they don't want to be educated. Politics is "boring" to some, so just tell them who to vote for - make it sound nice so that they can feel good when they mark their ballots.

If people actually thought for themselves, the useless media would have been destroyed long ago.

Scare people, tell them that the other side hates you (racism, homophobes, trying to shove their Bibles down your throat, want you to die in the streets, and any other complete and utter nonsense that they come up with), word your own message in a way that makes people feel good, nevermind the actual truth, pretend to care about them, (maybe put some hot sauce in your bag or take on a fake accent), and they'll vote.

What was that guy's name who was caught saying that the majority of their voter base was stupid? He was right.

Gruber:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6wljfbRaDM

Shouldn't have said it, but he wasn't wrong, either.
Corporate specialized economies decimated opportunities for genuine self employment, and it is not over yet. It is just too bad right wingers must pretend it is 18 century outside for their views to make any sense at all.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
30,253 posts, read 23,742,275 times
Reputation: 38639
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanny Goat View Post
This is a complicated problem. There are some who are moochers for sure, but others who have "learned" to be dependent through family, the assistance itself and/or other reasons. Some don't have the capacity to look at themselves and change.
But, others are in bad spots, whether it be their own bad choices or other reasons regardless they need help to pull out of it. Maybe job training, apprenticeships, vocational tech, community colleges, etc. Labeling someone from your limited perspective isn't helpful.
I've been saying this on this forum for a long time. Nothing but resistance to such a concept. Again, as the saying goes: Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. TEACH a man TO fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Corporate specialized economies decimated opportunities for genuine self employment, and it is not over yet. It is just too bad right wingers must pretend it is 18 century outside for their views to make any sense at all.
Wrong. I know plenty of "right wingers" who want LESS regulations, and LESS government intrusion in people's lives - in fact, minus the cucks, I don't know any "right winger" who wants the government dictating who can and cannot start a business and what hoops of bs they have to jump through to get there.

This "right winger" completely agrees that the government overreach has caused many who could be creating their own businesses from actually creating them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:23 AM
 
6,326 posts, read 6,592,679 times
Reputation: 7457
Quote:
Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
I've been saying this on this forum for a long time. Nothing but resistance to such a concept. Again, as the saying goes: Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. TEACH a man TO fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.



Wrong. I know plenty of "right wingers" who want LESS regulations, and LESS government intrusion in people's lives - in fact, minus the cucks, I don't know any "right winger" who wants the government dictating who can and cannot start a business and what hoops of bs they have to jump through to get there.

This "right winger" completely agrees that the government overreach has caused many who could be creating their own businesses from actually creating them.
Government might prevent creation of some businesses but the biggest killer of self-employment are corporate businesses themselves. Larger businesses are not just better suited for creation of complex products and services, they are the only way those complex products can be created. The scope of small businesses is limited to begin with and then they try to grow and chain. Thus there is intense competition in non essential "gotcha" or openly fraudulent small business segment demanding government attention.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:24 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top