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Old 10-04-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Too; birthright needs to go away for any US born kid unless at least 1 parent's a US citizen. Even Ireland put a stop to birthright about 10 years ago.
That's the irony. The dingleberry majority opinion of Wong Kim Ark tried to reference British common law despite the dissenting judges arguing US precedent had broken from old common law on birthright citizenship. Today even the British and almost the entire rest of the developed world don't recognize birthright citizenship. Funny how liberal progressives are selectively stuck in bygone era.
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Old 10-04-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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Cite some laws. There are violations in some cases but nothing considered criminal. I traveled internationally a good bit and I was always working yet generally used a tourist visa or traveled under tourist laws. I think you would find that very common among commercial travelers.

And the one about being paid in cash. How do you get that being illegal?

Is there a law that actually says you can't work? Cite it please.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a

8 U.S. Code § 1324a - Unlawful employment of aliens
(a) Making employment of unauthorized aliens unlawful
(1) In generalIt is unlawful for a person or other entity—
(A) to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an alien knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien (as defined in subsection (h)(3)) with respect to such employment, or
(B)
(i) to hire for employment in the United States an individual without complying with the requirements of subsection (b) or (ii) if the person or entity is an agricultural association, agricultural employer, or farm labor contractor (as defined in section 1802 of title 29), to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an individual without complying with the requirements of subsection (b).
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a

8 U.S. Code § 1324a - Unlawful employment of aliens
(a) Making employment of unauthorized aliens unlawful
(1) In generalIt is unlawful for a person or other entity—
(A) to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an alien knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien (as defined in subsection (h)(3)) with respect to such employment, or
(B)
(i) to hire for employment in the United States an individual without complying with the requirements of subsection (b) or (ii) if the person or entity is an agricultural association, agricultural employer, or farm labor contractor (as defined in section 1802 of title 29), to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an individual without complying with the requirements of subsection (b).
Do I really have to interpret that for you?

It does not apply to illegal aliens.

It does apply to those who knowingly hire illegal aliens.

But those who casually employ are free of any problem. And the illegal alien violates no law by working as far as I know.
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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That isn't what was ruled. It was ruled that they did but no where in the ruling does it state that they have to. The Supreme Court is unfortunately very good at putting out very narrow rulings.



It's not about those here illegally.




Unborn children do not get here by themselves.
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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Unborn children do not get here by themselves.
No they don't. They take the same path as you did.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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No they don't. They take the same path as you did.
They didn't take the same path as my first ancestors or many other Americans' to come here as legals or already British subjects/citizens to an undeveloped frontier.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:43 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No it doesn't. You can simply give up one if it works better for you.
Simply? No. The U.S. Charges an exit tax:

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/inte...patriation-tax
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:47 AM
 
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And you defend your irrelevant response with another equally irrelevant.

The subject is Anchor Babies not ignoring laws.

How priceless is that? Their parents ARE ILLEGALLY present in the U.S.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:51 AM
 
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Indians were in that strange limbo where they were tribal members but not citizens. Actually the story is of the US trying to cover up that which is proof of the illegality of much US behavior. We do not like to admit our racist roots even then.
I cited two examples of those born in the U.S. of European descent who were denied U.S. citizenship because their parents were foreign citizens/subjects at the time of the persons' birth. This has nothing to do with race.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:54 AM
 
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However nothing shakes the Ark decision as making it clear we grant citizenship to kids born here with the exception of the kids of diplomats or invaders.
That is false. The Wong Kim Ark ruling explicitly stipulates that parents must have a permanent domicile in the U.S. Illegal aliens don't, as they're not even supposed to be in the U.S. at all.
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