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Old 10-19-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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I believe it is possible that the order came from the USA State dept. But then again what benefit does the Ecuadorians have protecting Assange?

None whatsoever -- only one group of people benefits from silencing Assange. Nor should we hold it against Ecuador that they caved in to pressure.
I wonder if this will be a topic in tonight's debate? It should be. The Party in power has used its position to stifle the flow of information and influence an election. No doubt they would argue that since the leaks weren't true, we really don't have to hear them.
Coincidentally, there is an ongoing thread in this Forum regarding Obama's suggestion that we come up with "some way" to "curate" internet content, so that only "true" information is presented to the people.
Are y'all scared yet? I am.

 
Old 10-19-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I believe Ecuador doesn't want to be caught in the middle. That makes perfect sense to me.

Assange definitely has something to lose if Clinton is elected, so I'ms suspicious of Wikileaks, and both Trump and Clinton have email and other net comms they sure want to be kept private, so they have their own motives, just as much as Assange has. Only different motives.

The only entity who has no skin in this game is Ecuador, and they have their own problems. It makes sense that they were the ones who cut Assange off from any net access. The guy is persona-non-grata in London, so he's a pain in the butt for Ecuador in many possible ways.

The email dump?
It's possible that the individual messages in the dump weren't tampered with, simply because there are so many of them, but it's very possible that the wiki crew deleted message threads that made Assange look bad or could harm him in some way.

A lopsided big picture can still have many untouched strokes in it. It's harder to determine, sometimes, if the entire picture is skewed when one is concentrating only at the tiny details.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Democrats loved Wikileaks until they started dropping the truth about them
 
Old 10-19-2016, 02:00 PM
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Democrats loved Wikileaks until they started dropping the truth about them
And never questioned their validity
 
Old 10-19-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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Democrats loved Wikileaks until they started dropping the truth about them
LOL I did not follow Wikileaks back then. Was it stuff about the Bush administration?
 
Old 10-19-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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And never questioned their validity
Interesting. All of a sudden these people need to be 'silenced'.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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The only entity who has no skin in this game is Ecuador, and they have their own problems. It makes sense that they were the ones who cut Assange off from any net access. The guy is persona-non-grata in London, so he's a pain in the butt for Ecuador in many possible ways.
Ecuador has big skin in this game. The economy of Ecuador is based mostly on exports of oil, bananas, shrimp, gold, other primary agricultural products and money transfers from nearly a million Ecuadorian emigrants employed abroad.

Oil has tanked and most of those Ecuadorian immigrants are undocumented workers in the US.

In 2012 the U.S. Government gave a total of $25,935,464 in foreign aid to Ecuador.

When John Kerry told Ecuador to bend over, they said sí Señor Kerry.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 02:23 PM
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Interesting. All of a sudden these people need to be 'silenced'.
I don't remember bush or msm deflecting with dangerous rhetoric either.
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