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Old 10-28-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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AHA! I'll bet the difference will be in your subsidy. More HC cost shenanigans!
Yes, no subsidy but I had no subsidy for either year when I was getting quotes.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Another thing I don't understand is that the DNC rigged the primary for Clintons benefit. Why would Sanders voters vote for someone that did that to their choice candidate?
Because I'm not a conservative/libertarian and never will be, I won't vote for that
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Yes, no subsidy but I had no subsidy for either year when I was getting quotes.
Sorry for your misfortune. I can only hope that my quotes stay valid I guess.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Another thing I don't understand is that the DNC rigged the primary for Clintons benefit. Why would Sanders voters vote for someone that did that to their choice candidate?
I imagine that a political organization is political and practices politics. None of this surprises me. I guess seeing it in black and white might educate more people.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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I hear you. But then we would have to change Medicare.

We need to meet two generalities IMO.

We need a system that covers those with pre-existing and seniors. i.e. high risk, expensive.
And we need a system that covers the relatively young and healthy. Low risk and cheap.

These can be met with a public option. The privates could now cover the latter, as so many high risks would be removed from their regions.
No, it is not the authority of the federal government to do such (it is not a listed power in the Constitution and remember, if it is not listed specifically in the Constitution it is left to the states and the people there in). They are illegal in such actions. This is a matter for the states, not the federal government.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Another thing I don't understand is that the DNC rigged the primary for Clintons benefit. Why would Sanders voters vote for someone that did that to their choice candidate?
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Because I'm not a conservative/libertarian and never will be, I won't vote for that
I didn't ask why you won't vote for Trump. I asked why you would vote for a candidate that rigged it against your candidate Bernie? Can you explain? If a candidate did what was done against Bernie to get Hillary elected I certainly wouldn't be voting for her.
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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No, it is not the authority of the federal government to do such (it is not a listed power in the Constitution and remember, if it is not listed specifically in the Constitution it is left to the states and the people there in). They are illegal in such actions. This is a matter for the states, not the federal government.
What would you suggest that I do with my Medicare premium next month?
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I didn't ask why you won't vote for Trump. I asked why you would vote for a candidate that rigged it against your candidate Bernie? Can you explain? If a candidate did what was done against Bernie to get Hillary elected I certainly wouldn't be voting for her.
Because of the "Nader effect". Almost nobody votes third party, so if I voted for Jill Stein, I would be defacto giving Trump my vote by taking a vote away from Hillary. I don't want this to be another 2000 election, where Ralph Nader, Katherine Harris, and the Supreme Court all cost Gore the election
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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Because of the "Nader effect". Almost nobody votes third party, so if I voted for Jill Stein, I would be defacto giving Trump my vote by taking a vote away from Hillary. I don't want this to be another 2000 election, where Ralph Nader, Katherine Harris, and the Supreme Court all cost Gore the election
You could have posted things you think Hillary will do that benefits Americans. Instead you're voting for Hillary, (who made sure you're candidate didn't win by cheating) as an anti-Trump vote. You do realize that you're doing exactly what they expect you to do right? LOL, you're being played. and you thought you were smart lol

They're playing you like a fiddle LOL

Ok got it.
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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Because of the "Nader effect". Almost nobody votes third party, so if I voted for Jill Stein, I would be defacto giving Trump my vote by taking a vote away from Hillary. I don't want this to be another 2000 election, where Ralph Nader, Katherine Harris, and the Supreme Court all cost Gore the election
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