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1. federal law enforcement retirement is 55/20...all they have to do is do 20 yes and reach 55 , or do 25 years for any age to COLLECT
2. their FBI LEO time counts towards any other LEO job federal job (LEO or not) and is accepted and credited by EVERY STATE
3. so them resigning, means nothing as they can get a job almost anywhere, with any governmental agency
first it is 57/ 20 you are behind the times, and one agency will call the other - fed/ state or local as to the circumstance of your leaving- no one just quits - I want to see the wives of these people with no checking coming on an instant I quit? 2)- they may be up on charges specially if pulled others in tow. Life is not so easy if you leave that way- guaranteed -- hope they have a private job in security with Trump
Resign and do what? I'd have to assume that many of them aren't retirement age and aren't about to give up handsome retirement packages and lose their health care etc.
I don't buy it.
You can switch to another government department and your time in the DOJ would count if you transferred to, say, the DOD because it's all federal (which means all their time and grade would count towards retirement). On top of that, they would probably be more qualified than most of their employment competition because of their experience and clearance levels.
Not really a stretch at all.
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Originally Posted by tinytrump
first of all do not play games with threatening the govt to quit especially collectively - OPR be out in droves- and they would pull your ID card shut down your computer in one minute. You would be considered an internal threat-
they can whine all they in the locker room-- want but no threat of anything - they will see you as someone who can no longer be trusted- bye bye Felicia-- zero tolerance. This was the top official's judgement call and you stay inline- or adios
1. Pull your ID card and shut down your computer in one minute? Huh? You can't just fire a federal employee like how it goes down at a regular civilian job, especially if those employees are past their probationary periods.
2. How would they be considered an internal threat? For saying they're gonna resign?
3. What locker room?
4. If it was his judgment call, who's putting the pressure on him to reopen a case? He should be able to tell everybody to go jump off a bridge, right?
first it is 57/ 20 you are behind the times, and one agency will call the other - fed/ state or local as to the circumstance of your leaving- no one just quits - I want to see the wives of these people with no checking coming on an instant I quit? 2)- they may be up on charges specially if pulled others in tow. Life is not so easy if you leave that way- guaranteed -- hope they have a private job in security with Trump
Actually, you're both in the ball park, but your numbers are a little off.
Federal agents, firemen and air traffic controllers can retire at age 50 with 20 years in. (I retired at 53 with 30+ years in.) Your pension starts immediately and, effective in 2016, you have full access to your 401(k) - which we call "TSP."
Agents must retire by their 57th birthday, which is why you must be 36 or younger to get hired into those positions. That gives you the requisite 20 years to obtain a pension. (That's where the 57/20 number comes from.)
The agents who were on the Clinton case were all GS-1811/13s and 14s - the cream of the crop. They could write their own ticket getting hired by any of the other 80 or so agencies that utilize 1811s. When I sat on hiring panels, I looked for Bureau agents because they were better trained and far more focused on proper law enforcement techniques than those who grew up in the IG community.
For the record, I have zero idea whether the original premise of this thread - that ~100 agents intended to resign - is accurate or not.
Tom Delay got off because all the judges in Texas are Republicans.
He is as bad as the rest of that bunch extorting funds for his "foundation". look it up. At the height of his trouble his foundation built a group home for abandoned and foster kids. It got him all kinds of good press and dollars. IIRC, it sat vacant for month into years.
I would not believe a word that exterminator said. Even his brother knows he is an opportunist.
Tom Delay got off because all the judges in Texas are Republicans.
He is as bad as the rest of that bunch extorting funds for his "foundation". look it up. At the height of his trouble his foundation built a group home for abandoned and foster kids. It got him all kinds of good press and dollars. IIRC, it sat vacant for month into years.
I would not believe a word that exterminator said. Even his brother knows he is an opportunist.
No way... if what you say is true, DeLay would still be serving.
Austin is our little slice of liberalism in Texas.
FBI Director James Comey reopened the agency's investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails last week because "almost 100" agents threatened to resign before next week's election, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told Newsmax TV.
"A few weeks ago, almost 100 agents were threatening Comey that they were going to resign — and that kind of pressure is what turned him around," DeLay, 69, the majority leader from 2003 to 2005, said on Tuesday's "The Steve Malzberg Show." "It wasn't Comey or his integrity."
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"If 100 FBI agents resigned before the election, he would have been toast."
DeLay — whose new book is "Revival! Revolution! Rebirth!" — said even though Comey announced his findings in July, "those FBI agents didn't stop working.
"It's taken them this long, a few months, to get to this point. They didn't stop working.
"The investigation, he said it was closed, but as far as those FBI agents were concerned, it wasn't closed.
"They were going forward, because they knew that they had to come up with some new information or some new evidence in order to get Comey to open up — particularly when he has this kind of pressure coming from his own agents."
Interesting... just about as valid as anything else out there.
So, Comey's employees bullied him into tampering with the elections.....
You can switch to another government department and your time in the DOJ would count if you transferred to, say, the DOD because it's all federal (which means all their time and grade would count towards retirement). On top of that, they would probably be more qualified than most of their employment competition because of their experience and clearance levels.
Not really a stretch at all.
1. Pull your ID card and shut down your computer in one minute? Huh? You can't just fire a federal employee like how it goes down at a regular civilian job, especially if those employees are past their probationary periods.
2. How would they be considered an internal threat? For saying they're gonna resign?
3. What locker room?
4. If it was his judgment call, who's putting the pressure on him to reopen a case? He should be able to tell everybody to go jump off a bridge, right?
If you collect 100 agents and walk into the directors office tell them you are going to all quit because if that desicion. You will be escorted out, and OPR will be at your cubicle . They have no idea what plans a massive amount of people threatening to walk out with secret information under their belt means, you become an instant internal threat. A disgruntled with a weapon is very dangerous especially 100 . Trust me, one crazy agent going off about a executive decision is not cool, 100 ? I don't buy it. They all know they serve the country, one constitution and many presidents and top directors come and go with them ... Comey, is short. New pres. New chief. Locker rooms. They all have a gym / showers etc in Leo type fed blds. They work day and night. What he did or didn't do - I will not comment. You and I really don't know all the details and maybe never will.
Last edited by tinytrump; 11-02-2016 at 07:03 PM..
So, Comey's employees bullied him into tampering with the elections.....
Assuming the story is true I wouldn't call it bullying, some people still have standards. I'll reiterate, Comey did the same thing to the Bush Administration when he was acting AG over the NSA spying. It wasn't just him either, there was others going with him. This is a very bad thing to happen under your direction whether you are the FBI director or the President.
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- I want to see the wives of these people with no checking coming on an instant I quit? 2)- they may be up on charges specially if pulled others in tow. Life is not so easy if you leave that way- guaranteed -- hope they have a private job in security with Trump
I don't buy it. They all know they serve the country, one constitution and many presidents and top directors come and go with them ... Comey, is short. New pres. New chief. Locker rooms. They all have a gym / showers etc in Leo type fed blds. They work day and night. What he did or didn't do - I will not comment. You and I really don't know all the details and maybe never will.
