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Old 11-09-2016, 11:11 AM
 
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Good News: 35% Of Government Workers Might Quit If Trump Wins

A new survey finds that more than a third of federal workers are threatening to quit their jobs should Donald Trump prevail in the presidential election. If only that were true.

A survey of federal employees by the Government Business Council and GovExec.com found that 14% said they would "definitely" consider quitting their jobs if Trump wins the election on Nov. 8, another 13% said they might consider it. Just 65% said they'd stay on at their jobs no matter who wins.

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The simple truth is that federal workers are paid far more than their private sector counterparts when you combine wages and benefits. A 2012 Congressional Budget Office report found that federal workers with a high school diploma or less made 36% more than similarly educated workers in the private sector. For people with a bachelor's degree, the gap was 15%.

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What's more, federal workers put in less time than private sector workers. As we noted in this space previously, government data show that employees in local, state and federal governments are 38% more likely to take time off work for illness or personal reasons, and miss 50% more hours than private sector workers.


Hopefully some of the waste among the remaining workers can be diminished as well.

Maybe the porn can be removed in the EPA offices.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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They aren't quitting. Just like all these Lefties aren't going to Canada. They need to stop the bs. Trump got the nomination, and everyone got their cards pulled. Good for them. Sore losers.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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Trump needs that money saved to build that wall. We may go in debt doing it but we will get the that wall Trump promised....
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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If they were that principled, they wouldn't have guv jobs in the first place.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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Did you see the returns from DC? It was like 93% to 4%. They knew who would be growing government and increase government spending.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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They are making 16% more than private sector workers doing the same job - don't think they will really quit.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the housing market around DC - guessing it has peaked.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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I am a federal civilian employee of 32 years who is sick and tired of being lumped into the "wasteful, lazy, good-for-nothing, burden on the American taxpayer government employee" bin. I have always taken my responsibilities extremely seriously and would NEVER knowingly waste taxpayer money, cheat, lie, take my employment for granted, or take an action that benefits myself at the expense of the nation. I have never taken a social handout or used anything I did not earn. If I take "sick leave" its because I am SICK, not productive. If I take personal leave (not even sure what that means other than earned vacation hours) it is because there is some life event that keeps me from doing my work...like dealing with the paperwork while being the executor of my dad's estate, repairing the roof of my house, etc. Yes I realize not all private sector workers have these benefits...but I do and I appreciate them. Thinking back over the years, I can't bring to mind more than one or two co-workers out of hundreds who didn't believe in the missions they were assigned, who chose their profession because they cared and loved the work, who didn't watch and document every dime, every purchase, every bit of travel and every minute of the workday. but then I've always worked for resource management-type agencies that have small budgets and no slack anywhere. Do I resent inefficiency and waste of time and funding? OF COURSE I do!

There are hundreds if not thousands of government workers like me out there who care about this country and put their money where their mouth is every single day. And I happen to know that my particular profession does not earn more in the public funded sector than the private one, it earns less. Its a livable wage thank goodness, but if money was my motivator I wouldn't be here in the first place. I am sick and tired of the ignorant accusations and generalizations we get subjected to...that we always vote to line our pockets at the nation's expense and that we are quaking in our boots because the election results mean an end to the gravy train, the graft and corruption.

And, just in case you care to hear it, my concerns about the upcoming administration have more to do with Congressional gridlock resulting from bizarre posturing, hyperbole, time-wasting rants, personal vendettas, lawsuits, insult exchanges, and egotistical tantrums taking the place of WORK by productive adults.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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I am a federal civilian employee of 32 years who is sick and tired of being lumped into the "wasteful, lazy, good-for-nothing, burden on the American taxpayer government employee" bin. I have always taken my responsibilities extremely seriously and would NEVER knowingly waste taxpayer money, cheat, lie, take my employment for granted, or take an action that benefits myself at the expense of the nation. I have never taken a social handout or used anything I did not earn. If I take "sick leave" its because I am SICK, not productive. If I take personal leave (not even sure what that means other than earned vacation hours) it is because there is some life event that keeps me from doing my work...like dealing with the paperwork while being the executor of my dad's estate, repairing the roof of my house, etc. Yes I realize not all private sector workers have these benefits...but I do and I appreciate them. Thinking back over the years, I can't bring to mind more than one or two co-workers out of hundreds who didn't believe in the missions they were assigned, who chose their profession because they cared and loved the work, who didn't watch and document every dime, every purchase, every bit of travel and every minute of the workday. but then I've always worked for resource management-type agencies that have small budgets and no slack anywhere. Do I resent inefficiency and waste of time and funding? OF COURSE I do!

There are hundreds if not thousands of government workers like me out there who care about this country and put their money where their mouth is every single day. And I happen to know that my particular profession does not earn more in the public funded sector than the private one, it earns less. Its a livable wage thank goodness, but if money was my motivator I wouldn't be here in the first place. I am sick and tired of the ignorant accusations and generalizations we get subjected to...that we always vote to line our pockets at the nation's expense and that we are quaking in our boots because the election results mean an end to the gravy train, the graft and corruption.

And, just in case you care to hear it, my concerns about the upcoming administration have more to do with Congressional gridlock resulting from bizarre posturing, hyperbole, time-wasting rants, personal vendettas, lawsuits, insult exchanges, and egotistical tantrums taking the place of WORK by productive adults.
Hey Allison - not to reduce your complaint, but everyone is lumped in with something. I am a black male, therefore I am a perceived threat to many. White males are angry.

I know there are plenty of good people in government that take their jobs seriously. They are in my family as well. But you can't deny that there is plenty of government waste, and agencies that mismanage resources, and EPA personnel watching porn on the job.

We need a good and efficient government. You sound like you are part of that.

As far as Trump, I think he will be different than the normal gridlock that takes place. I won't speak for the rest of Congress, but I think he will be different.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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I am a federal civilian employee of 32 years who is sick and tired of being lumped into the "wasteful, lazy, good-for-nothing, burden on the American taxpayer government employee" bin. I have always taken my responsibilities extremely seriously and would NEVER knowingly waste taxpayer money, cheat, lie, take my employment for granted, or take an action that benefits myself at the expense of the nation. I have never taken a social handout or used anything I did not earn. If I take "sick leave" its because I am SICK, not productive. If I take personal leave (not even sure what that means other than earned vacation hours) it is because there is some life event that keeps me from doing my work...like dealing with the paperwork while being the executor of my dad's estate, repairing the roof of my house, etc. Yes I realize not all private sector workers have these benefits...but I do and I appreciate them. Thinking back over the years, I can't bring to mind more than one or two co-workers out of hundreds who didn't believe in the missions they were assigned, who chose their profession because they cared and loved the work, who didn't watch and document every dime, every purchase, every bit of travel and every minute of the workday. but then I've always worked for resource management-type agencies that have small budgets and no slack anywhere. Do I resent inefficiency and waste of time and funding? OF COURSE I do!

There are hundreds if not thousands of government workers like me out there who care about this country and put their money where their mouth is every single day. And I happen to know that my particular profession does not earn more in the public funded sector than the private one, it earns less. Its a livable wage thank goodness, but if money was my motivator I wouldn't be here in the first place. I am sick and tired of the ignorant accusations and generalizations we get subjected to...that we always vote to line our pockets at the nation's expense and that we are quaking in our boots because the election results mean an end to the gravy train, the graft and corruption.

And, just in case you care to hear it, my concerns about the upcoming administration have more to do with Congressional gridlock resulting from bizarre posturing, hyperbole, time-wasting rants, personal vendettas, lawsuits, insult exchanges, and egotistical tantrums taking the place of WORK by productive adults.
If you are truly hard working AND effective you should have nothing to worry about. But then again you used 500 words when 20 would likely do.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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Hey Allison - not to reduce your complaint, but everyone is lumped in with something. I am a black male, therefore I am a perceived threat to many. White males are angry.

I know there are plenty of good people in government that take their jobs seriously. They are in my family as well. But you can't deny that there is plenty of government waste, and agencies that mismanage resources, and EPA personnel watching porn on the job.

We need a good and efficient government. You sound like you are part of that.

As far as Trump, I think he will be different than the normal gridlock that takes place. I won't speak for the rest of Congress, but I think he will be different.
One thing I'll never forget from my one government job was - "It's end of the fiscal year, we have to burn through the rest of our budget. Every dollar must be spent."
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