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Climate change is just something some people like to talk about because doing so makes them feel like they are smart and aware. Then they go buy their new cell phone and tv and plan their next vacation.
Anyone who thinks ignoring, denying, or claiming that it is natural and nothing can be done is either ignorant or willfully blind...
This is happening now.... Record global temperatures in 2015 and 2016 are causing a humanitarian crisis that is more than double that of conflict as a cause of displacement and migration, the WMO stated today. Heatwaves, flood, drought and fires are all contributing to the declining food and water security affecting over 60 million people worldwide. WMO: 2015 / 2016 temperature records creating surge of climate refugees - The Ecologist
Anyone who thinks ignoring, denying, or claiming that it is natural and nothing can be done is either ignorant or willfully blind...
This is happening now.... Record global temperatures in 2015 and 2016 are causing a humanitarian crisis that is more than double that of conflict as a cause of displacement and migration, the WMO stated today. Heatwaves, flood, drought and fires are all contributing to the declining food and water security affecting over 60 million people worldwide. WMO: 2015 / 2016 temperature records creating surge of climate refugees - The Ecologist
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Anyone who thinks ignoring, denying, or claiming that it is natural and nothing can be done is either ignorant or willfully blind...
This is happening now.... Record global temperatures in 2015 and 2016 are causing a humanitarian crisis that is more than double that of conflict as a cause of displacement and migration, the WMO stated today. Heatwaves, flood, drought and fires are all contributing to the declining food and water security affecting over 60 million people worldwide. WMO: 2015 / 2016 temperature records creating surge of climate refugees - The Ecologist
Wrong, All of it you said is. Sorry, no disrespect meant towards you but I strongly disagree. There is no way humans have more power than nature, just no way. I really really hope were all alive (current generation) to see the lies we have been fed....you watch.
1. Sea level rise of nearly 7 inches in the last several decades. This is due to ice melt and thermal expansion. Florida is in big trouble.
2. Global Warming. The hottest 10 years of overall surface temperatures have come in the last 12 years.
3. Ocean Acidification and Coral Reef Death. Warm temperatures and CO2 absorption are slowly killing the oceans.
4. Massive Loss of Glaciers and Polar Ice. Right now a record is being set for the slowest regrowth of polar ice for early winter.
5. Increasing Droughts and Floods. There's been an upswing in severe flooding events, with several occurring in Texas, Louisiana, Colorado -- while droughts get worse. Wildfires in Georgia and North Carolina in mid-November are definitely not normal.
Since roughly 1900 when people began using increasing amounts of oil, gas and coal, the CO2 in the atmosphere has increased by 40%. There's no way this cannot change the weather and the chickens are coming home to roost.
It's a shame that those who are concerned about such matters resort to obfuscation by using the term they do. I've been teaching this stuff for fourteen years at the local community college. By definition, "weather" is the current condition of the atmosphere at any specific location. It's what happens right now. How hot or cold is it now? What precipitation, if any, is falling right now? What's the cloud cover? Where are the pressure systems and how are they moving? What is the humidity right now? Etc., etc., etc.
Also by definition, "climate" is a thirty-year average of what the weather has been in any specific location. It's a thirty-year moving average. The climate of New York City today is different than it was yesterday, or last week, or last year. Not much, I'll agree, but it is by definition different.
When advocates say that "Climate Change" is real, they are technically correct. Is the sky falling? Probably not. As Mircea so clearly illustrated in post #18, the "normal" climate condition of our planet is to be in the throes of an ice age. This very short Holocene inter-glacial is very abnormal, and we need to be thankful for it. It won't last much longer.
Those proposing a certain course of society action would be well served by returning to the more accurate term, "Global Warming". However, that phrase has become toxic to their cause, hence the movement now using ambiguous "Climate Change" terminology.
I think I only have a few questions-are we replacing what we take from the earth or Is the earth replenishing ? We know we have huge populations and consumption and waste, how does all that not affect the earth? We damage earth with bombs etc radiation chemicals it does not affect the balance? If nothing we can do to stop anything, how long will we survive at this pace? And if you are wrong professor? What for our kids?
It's an issue to which the answers are currently unknown and elusive. What absolutely needs to happen is for the politicians to butt out and then let the scientists figure it all out, without fear of 'toeing the line' so that they can continue to receive funding. It's a very, very complex problem, and the blowing political winds, on both sides, are not helping at all.
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