Trump cabinet selections and appointments (Clinton, Sacramento, dollars, private school)
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It is not about "worse" ones...
It is about using public money to pay for private ( likely religious) schools...
Conservatives are all about welfare queens taking advantage of taxpayers
What are voucher programs that use public/tax money to subsidize a private/religious school...
It is a welfare program to subsidize religion in America with PUBLIC tax money--specifically prohibited under the Constitution!
And there is choice in public schools...
People vote for the school board members in a public school,district--they don't have that option in a private school...certainly not,one owned by a corporation run by stock holders and likely a very engineered board of directors...
People also have the right in any school district to move if they don't like their school or apply for an inter-district transfer...many districts have various programs with magnet schools for special disciplines like fine arts, medical arts, STEM, and other options like trade schools
Funny, I read all this complaining but, when the dems WANT pass a bill all we here is "If it helps just 1 child, it is worth it"
I guess you are more concerned some child MIGHT here "God", then helping children get a good education.
Are so insecure in your beliefs that just mention of "God" frazzles you?
"And there is choice in public schools..."
IMO, most of this discussion is about inner city schools witch are the worst of the lot and they do NOT have much "choice"
Funny, I read all this complaining but, when the dems WANT pass a bill all we here is "If it helps just 1 child, it is worth it"
Except in this case, you want to save 1 child while shooting the rest. Private schools, even with vouchers do not have to take kids with disabilities and special needs. If we want to attach provisions to vouchers that say Private schools MUST adhere to IDEA (look it up if you don't know) and cannot refuse special needs kids then we can talk. This was asked of Devos during the confirmation hearings and she absolutely refused to answer.
Look, it's a complex issue with many facets. I get why you want that 1 kid to choose and go to another school. I get it...let's talk about that autistic kid or the kid in the wheelchair. Everyone keeps ignoring it. What do we do with those that public school has a responsibility to teach and who cannot use the voucher system?
so a system that helps some students rather than zero students... I didn't realize that want everyone to be in a failing rather than some... how generous of you...
So parents are important to succeed in school but not for choosing the school... interesting...
Perhaps with this plan, there will be some thought of building an alternative charter school in an area that has zero competition... if all the schools are the same level, then that is a success... as time grows, a school system will have to compete for every student...
1. You're not seeing the negative effects of pulling out the high students of your average run of the mill school. The high students can actually be a positive influence on the low students. Group projects, peer learning, etc. Essentially kids helping kids. Remove them from the equation, you're stuck with a bunch of middle and low learning kids. School begins to get a bad rap, no one wants to go there, then only kids who aren't smart enough to get in elsewhere go and you're full of drop-outs and drug users etc.
2. You are again, not seeing schools as equal. If a student wants to succeed, they will.
3. And where do you think this $100,000,000+ for a school will come from? Instead of putting that funding toward existing infrastructure, programs, and classes, you're spreading the budget even thinner.
1. You're not seeing the negative effects of pulling out the high students of your average run of the mill school. The high students can actually be a positive influence on the low students. Group projects, peer learning, etc. Essentially kids helping kids. Remove them from the equation, you're stuck with a bunch of middle and low learning kids. School begins to get a bad rap, no one wants to go there, then only kids who aren't smart enough to get in elsewhere go and you're full of drop-outs and drug users etc.
2. You are again, not seeing schools as equal. If a student wants to succeed, they will.
3. And where do you think this $100,000,000+ for a school will come from? Instead of putting that funding toward existing infrastructure, programs, and classes, you're spreading the budget even thinner.
It is more likely that kids that are doing poorly might opt out of the run on the mill school. Parents of kids that are learning and doing well have little reason to leave. As a parent I sure wouldn't move mine.
The role of choice is really to help kids that are in failed schools. Albany High School, for example, is on its 3rd "last chance" to improve. It is warned and warned and warned, but it never changes. It commissions a few studies, sends teachers for special training, hire consultants, etc. And fails again. And its kids have no choice but to go there and keep on failing. A whole generation has passed through there and learned nothing (some kids do well there but minority kids don't). These kids should have options. Maybe Guilderland HS, Christian Brothers, Albany Academy or a new school built around their specific needs.
The one size fits all model works for the kids it fits but not for those it doesn't. They need something for them.
It is more likely that kids that are doing poorly might opt out of the run on the mill school. Parents of kids that are learning and doing well have little reason to leave. As a parent I sure wouldn't move mine.
The role of choice is really to help kids that are in failed schools. Albany High School, for example, is on its 3rd "last chance" to improve. It is warned and warned and warned, but it never changes. It commissions a few studies, sends teachers for special training, hire consultants, etc. And fails again. And its kids have no choice but to go there and keep on failing. A whole generation has passed through there and learned nothing (some kids do well there but minority kids don't). These kids should have options. Maybe Guilderland HS, Christian Brothers, Albany Academy or a new school built around their specific needs.
The one size fits all model works for the kids it fits but not for those it doesn't. They need something for them.
Kids can only opt out if the alternative school is affordable for their parents. I fully support non-profit charter schools for that very reason, but we are talking about the DeVos voucher scheme, where the "choice" will end up being a voucher that only covers a small amount of private school tuition. If a voucher only provides a portion of tuition it doesn't widen access to the private school, it simply serves as a taxpayer funded discount to parents who can already pay the tuition.
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... If a voucher only provides a portion of tuition it doesn't widen access to the private school, it simply serves as a taxpayer funded discount to parents who can already pay the tuition.
Yes.
However, cut-rate tuition schools will likely spring up in churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, and empty malls so that with a few thousand dollars of supplemental tuition, they will be affordable for middle-income families.
High performing students from lower-income families will be eligible for scholarships to make up the difference.
In an ideal world, the public schools would hustle up programs and schools that will retain higher performing students.
In the real world, the districts that are already doing well will lose some students but will continue on providing the education that families already appreciate and approve of. The rest will soon find themselves with the most difficult-to-educate students.
However, cut-rate tuition schools will likely spring up in churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, and empty malls so that with a few thousand dollars of supplemental tuition, they will be affordable for middle-income families.
High performing students from lower-income families will be eligible for scholarships to make up the difference.
In an ideal world, the public schools would hustle up programs and schools that will retain higher performing students.
In the real world, the districts that are already doing well will lose some students but will continue on providing the education that families already appreciate and approve of. The rest will soon find themselves with the most difficult-to-educate students.
Just what we need. More religious influence over education.
You're underplaying all the significant costs involved with setting up an education facility. You need a curriculum, administrators, teachers, classrooms, books, not to mention certification from your state's school board.
This isn't something that just pops up. It takes many millions of dollars to do.
1. You're not seeing the negative effects of pulling out the high students of your average run of the mill school. The high students can actually be a positive influence on the low students. Group projects, peer learning, etc. Essentially kids helping kids. Remove them from the equation, you're stuck with a bunch of middle and low learning kids. School begins to get a bad rap, no one wants to go there, then only kids who aren't smart enough to get in elsewhere go and you're full of drop-outs and drug users etc.
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The high performing students are clearly a positive influence on the lower-performing students, peer learning, modeling, group projects and all. Big plus for the school system and the lower-performing students.
But at the expense of the high performing students.
Ask any high-performing student their opinion of group projects in public schools.
Our kids and nieces and nephews complained constantly about group projects. Classmates who didn't do their part or did it poorly. Yet they all got the same grade. Our kids adopted the strategy of picking up the slack and doing the final editing of any project.
The teachers all told them this was good preparation for life when you have to work with people of all skill levels.
Know what. All are grown up and none work with folks who don't carry their share of the load. They either don't get hired or get fired fairly fast.
Our public school system shortchanges higher performing students in favor of helping the lower performing students.
Vouchers are going to be a cluster duck with schools springing up and falling by the wayside and some getting a decent education and others not at all.
And the siloing of students into spending their days with people of their same faith will do nothing to help the melting pot business.
But public schools are just not working for a lot of kids. These are likely the ones who will be opting into voucher supported schools.
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