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Old 11-19-2016, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
We'll see if they drop the Federal hammer on States who have legalized pot. I'd give it 50/50 change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oke-marijuana/

President-elect Donald Trump plans to nominate Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) to be attorney general of the United States, The Washington Post and other news outlets reported Friday. Sessions is a vocal opponent of marijuana legalization whose elevation to attorney general could deal a blow to state-level marijuana legalization efforts across the country.

Sessions said that “we need grown-ups in charge in Washington to say marijuana is not the kind of thing that ought to be legalized, it ought not to be minimized, that it’s in fact a very real danger.”

“Those who counted on Donald Trump’s reassurance that marijuana reforms ‘should be a state issue’ will be sorely disappointed.”
Oh cool another fake conservative who doesn't believe in states rights and keeping big government out of the lives of adults when no ones rights have been violated.

 
Old 11-19-2016, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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“In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state. … Marijuana is such a big thing. I think medical should happen — right? Don’t we agree? I think so. And then I really believe we should leave it up to the states.” Washington Post, October 29, 2015


His position has changed and is not clear to me. Here is another quote;

“We’re losing badly the War on Drugs. You have to legalize drugs to win that war. You have to take the profit away from these drug czars.” Miami Herald, April 14, 1990
So, there is no quote with him saying he'd make weed legal in all 50 states.
 
Old 11-19-2016, 07:08 PM
 
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However, remember there is a lot of big business making billions off of keeping marijuana illegal. Big Pharma being the top one, prisons for profit, and a lot of federal people making their living sucking on the marijuana teat. How much influence they will have on Trump remains to be seen.

I believe it but it's disappointing because you are wasting government money by locking people up for something they're going to do anyway. Plus I'd much rather someone smoke a joint than push prescription drugs on me...as long as they don't smoke around me I'm cool.
 
Old 11-19-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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And they wonder why people are protesting about going backwards? We just passed med weed, leave it be!!
 
Old 11-19-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
We'll see if they drop the Federal hammer on States who have legalized pot. I'd give it 50/50 change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oke-marijuana/

President-elect Donald Trump plans to nominate Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) to be attorney general of the United States, The Washington Post and other news outlets reported Friday. Sessions is a vocal opponent of marijuana legalization whose elevation to attorney general could deal a blow to state-level marijuana legalization efforts across the country.

Sessions said that “we need grown-ups in charge in Washington to say marijuana is not the kind of thing that ought to be legalized, it ought not to be minimized, that it’s in fact a very real danger.”

“Those who counted on Donald Trump’s reassurance that marijuana reforms ‘should be a state issue’ will be sorely disappointed.”
Ultimately, legalized marijuana gets around the "interstate commerce" clause in the Constitution by growing and selling the weed in the same state. Legally, the federal government has no right to stop it. The Supreme Court will strike down any attempt to try.

The same would be true for heroine and cocaine. If the State of Florida legalized in-state produced heroine, the federal government would have no basis to stop them. If Alaska legalizes it and Alaskans start growing cocaine in green houses and selling it in-state only, then the federal government can't tell them they're wrong.

It will be interesting to see Sessions try to stop Colorado and others from continuing with legalized pot. He might be smart enough to know he can't win that fight. He might not. But if he's dumb enough to try, he'll lose.

 
Old 11-19-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Ultimately, legalized marijuana gets around the "interstate commerce" clause in the Constitution by growing and selling the weed in the same state. Legally, the federal government has no right to stop it. The Supreme Court will strike down any attempt to try.

The same would be true for heroine and cocaine. If the State of Florida legalized in-state produced heroine, the federal government would have no basis to stop them. If Alaska legalizes it and Alaskans start growing cocaine in green houses and selling it in-state only, then the federal government can't tell them they're wrong.

It will be interesting to see Sessions try to stop Colorado and others from continuing with legalized pot. He might be smart enough to know he can't win that fight. He might not. But if he's dumb enough to try, he'll lose.
They could approve it, but moving it distributing, hard not to cross lines -even in advertisement on Say the Internet. Now Feds have a quantity rule. If You have a oz or two -unless you robbed a fed bank, they hand you over to locals
 
Old 11-20-2016, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So, there is no quote with him saying he'd make weed legal in all 50 states.
His quote appears to say he supports medical marijuana 100%. And he thinks it's a state issue. That's pretty close.

And by the way, he can't "make weed legal in all 50 states."
 
Old 11-20-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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His quote appears to say he supports medical marijuana 100%. And he thinks it's a state issue. That's pretty close.

And by the way, he can't "make weed legal in all 50 states."
On his own, the only thing Trump can do is set enforcement policy for the DEA - in this case, to continue or abrogate or amend the existing agreement.

Congress could vote to get the feds out of the marijuana racket, or to enact the Holder agreement as law. The fact that the DEA still insists marijuana is a Schedule I drug makes this politically complicated, but if the votes are there... I doubt the votes are there though.

I think the reality is that if Congress backed off, a lot of states would also back off, moving toward decriminalization and regulation of use.
 
Old 11-20-2016, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Pot isn't legal for recreational use anywhere else besides Amsterdam. Is everywhere else in the world facist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legali...bis_by_country

Not entirely true. It is legal in Uruguay and North Korea.
 
Old 11-20-2016, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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If that guy reverses the state marijuana laws the republican party is as good as dead, and Trump will be a one term president no matter what he says, and so is this guy most likely. This is why the party can't ever gain real traction, because they try to legislate everyone's morality. So this guy doesn't believe in states rights and wants to take away a right to use a product that is less harmful than alcohol. Way to promote "personal liberty" there.... sounds like another "authoritarian" party to me rather than a party that claims to support personal liberty.

It doesn't really matter if the rest of the world has it legal or not, we should be held to a higher standard when it comes to personal liberty. It's expected they would keep everything illegal in socialist, nanny states where they have to protect everyone from everything. Frankly I'm surprised we still have the gun rights we do, I thought back when I graduated high school it would have gone the other way.

Ultimately the decision it Trump's, not sessions... he won't go over Trump's head and do something Trump doesn't want. Doing this would destroy Trump's popularity. Republicans need to become more libertarian and get with the times.... beat the democrats at it and become the party that is actually progressive in the right ways and you'll keep the white house for a long time. Trump should legalize it in 2020 as a way to get votes in the next election to get a second term. Had Hillary just came out and said she'd legalize it, she would have won the election. This whole war on drugs thing by all the global elite does baffle my mind a bit. People are going to do it anyways, and you just end up locking up otherwise decent people. All drug possession in small amounts should be decriminalized and only the dealers and those in possession of larger quantities should be locked up.

Sniff sniff... I should do a bit of digging and see who profits most from the war on drugs.. prisons, big pharma for starters....

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