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Old 11-21-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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either way is it 19 Dec the electorates actually vote--? they supposed to vote the peoples will --but- let's see. Could there be an upset? its already and UPSET-
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: NoVa
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This spreadsheet is quite handy:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...=true&sle=true

Latest update shows Clinton received 1,720,053 more votes. I believe the NYT projected she would have 2 million more than Trump once they're all counted.
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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a run off?
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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How many times to the liberals have to be told that until a candidate campaigns for the popular vote, the popular vote DOESN'T MATTER.

The reasons for the Electoral College have been discussed here at least 100 times already and it isn't going to change anytime soon. No amount of petitions or whining or protests are going to change anything.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:20 AM
 
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How many times to the liberals have to be told that until a candidate campaigns for the popular vote, the popular vote DOESN'T MATTER.

The reasons for the Electoral College have been discussed here at least 100 times already and it isn't going to change anytime soon. No amount of petitions or whining or protests are going to change anything.
If Trump had won the popular vote and Hilary had won, the liberals would be mocking Trump supporters who protested and claimed that the system is rigged. They are such flaming hypocrites. Trump won, GET OVER IT! This is not a news story. Liberal land CA and NYC don't get to decide the vote for the rest of us.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:26 AM
 
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And this will get you absolutely nothing. Gore won the popular vote and it got him exactly nothing. Its like saying one team got more runs over all in the world series but lost games so lost the series. Means crap.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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California, Oregon, NY, and PA have no voter ID law. That = at least 2 million illegal alien votes for Hillary.
That's simply misinformation.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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Libs go on about the popular vote but in an EC system the popular vote is a spurious concept. It almost delegitimizes the notion of the popular vote. Candidates win states, not individual votes. We don't have one big giant national election, we have 51 separate elections.
The Electoral College does not make the popular vote a spurious concept. The winner-take-all laws are not written into the Constitution, and are not an integral part of the Electoral system. Those laws could all be voided, and the states could select their electors in different ways.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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What identification is required to register to vote in California ?
The old, look, look look over here strategy.

Your argument about illegal aliens voting requires you to PROVE that millions of illegal aliens are registered, something that has been tried and has failed, AND that those millions of illegal aliens actually showed up and voted for Hillary. Since you fail on both levels, you try to distract other posters.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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you are teh one claiming that voters were not getting their say, which of course is wrong. and as i pointed out, and you dismissed, we do not live in a democracy, but rather a constitutional republic. and as i have noted many times, the national popular vote means exactly nothing.
We have went from 13 colonies, to 14 swing states, the popular vote means the selection process is not fair in a democracy. Just keep pointing that out and maybe, we will get it through our thick sculls, this needs change. The electoral college has not kept up with the population of the United States of America, for the people, by the people.

Should be 1 vote, 1 person for the president and Commander in Chief of this great land.

Should we still be using horses as our main mode of transportation? We live in a high tech society, our elections should coincide with the times. Did the founders even dream of space flight????? They did what they thought was the best, for the times. We need our leaders to step up and change our system.

The next election/selection could be worse. At least there would be more candidates and they would have to go to every state and show how they would propose to lead the country.

The national popular vote means everything.
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