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Old 12-08-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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History will be far kinder to the Obama administration than you think. Deservedly so.

He's not perfect, but no president is. He's a hell of an orator and a great statesman. That's also how history will perceive him.

Trump? Who knows.

He's not starting out favorably.
All not true.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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He will be remembered in the history books as the first mulatto (1/2 White, 1/2 Black) president.

Beyond that, he has no noteworthy accomplishments.
Mulatto?

Good grief!

Are you posting from the 1870s?

Next you're going to call someone 'high yaller'.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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History will be far kinder to the Obama administration than you think. Deservedly so.

He's not perfect, but no president is. He's a hell of an orator and a great statesman. That's also how history will perceive him.
History always does.

I tend to basically agree with you.. I don't think he'll be remembered as a great president.. Just.. A placeholder. Not great, not horrible.

he tried alot.. He was honest. He thought what he was doing was the right thing.. It didn't all pan out. Not much panned out.. Economy was basically stuck in neutral.. Stocks grew, but the common man was hurt.

But.. we didn't get involved in WW3.. The economy didn't tank.. He'll be remembered as the first black president..

It could have been worse. Could have been better, but could have been alot worse.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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Reality Check

Why would any critically thinking adult pay any attention to CNN?
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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History will be far kinder to the Obama administration than you think. Deservedly so.

He's not perfect, but no president is. He's a hell of an orator and a great statesman. That's also how history will perceive him.

Trump? Who knows.

He's not starting out favorably.
A great orator? Mr. Umumaahhumbomma a great orator? He can passably read a teleprompter, but when he is asked a question and formulate his own reply he's a joke. And a great statesman? He has insulted and degraded many of our allies. While of course treating our enemies with adoration.

I didn't vote for him, but in '08 I wasn't unhappy that he won. I had high hopes that he would do a good job and as the first half-black president in history, leave with a good legacy. Sadly, such hasn't been the case. His biggest downfalls-he picks terrible, incompetent people to run his agencies, and he can't step up and take responsibility. And he lets racism cloud his judgement.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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His legacy is hit and miss, but the following items are undeniable:

He saved the entire US auto industry, and the taxpayers actually made a profit off the interest payments.

He fully integrated the military; allowing gays to serve openly and women to serve in combat.

Millions previously uninsured Americans got health insurance.

That's the sort of thing that historians look fondly upon. Imagine what he could've accomplished without the most obstructionist congress in history.

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Old 12-08-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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His legacy is hit and miss, but the following items are undeniable:

He saved the entire US auto industry, and the taxpayers actually made a profit off the interest payments.
Why do people (you) persist with this lie?

U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout | Reuters
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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It's a little more complicated than that, but I admit that the government sold the TARP assets for less than the borrowed value. All told, that investment saved over 100b in tax revenue that would have been lost.

U.S. ends TARP with $15.3 billion profit - Dec. 19, 2014
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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It's a little more complicated than that,
No it isn't. Once you knowingly push what you know is not true nothing else you have to say bears any relevance to anything.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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No it isn't. Once you knowingly push what you know is not true nothing else you have to say bears any relevance to anything.
You mean like The President Elect? I actually did not know that the sale of the auto assets resulted in a loss. When presented with the fax I conceded, because that is what reasonable, rational adults do.
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