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Old 12-10-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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Is that supposed to be like the old "I know you are but what am I?" kind of retort?

Just admit that the GOP is now indelibly linked with communists Russia and the Trump is an ardent supporter of Vladimir Putin. You may think that's cool, but its not. It is an insult to me and every other American who has worked hard and fought diligently to keep this nation free and unfettered from the scourge of oppressive government, censorship, and dictatorship.

There's a lot of things Trump may be able to get away with in the eyes of GOP sheeple-land, like suppressing minority voter rights, inciting fear of immigrants, bashing gays back into the closet, outlawing abortion, etc, but getting into the sack with communist Russia? That is surprising even to me.
Go back to your safe space kiddo.....
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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serious question then, what news is real? Infowars.com? I'd really like to know because I think everyone on this board has probably lost sight of objective reality.
A bias toward the legitimacy of your favorite news sources does not constitute "objective reality". Sorry. We could spend a year going over all of the fake news from those sources in the period of the last administration alone.
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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"The CIA concluded that Russia worked to elect Trump."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.359e6be4350b

So we have a president elect who potentially colluded with a foreign power to win an election. Nice.
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While saying that Russia clearly tried to help Trump doesn't inherently call into question the legitimacy of Trump's win —earlier Friday, the White House made sure to emphasize that it's not making that case
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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Source?
This is how the anti-Trumpets tried to do the narrative... this is just an example but similar to the anti-Trump CIA analysis...

A rocket made by a US defense manufacturer was stolen by the Taliban. The Taliban used it to attack a UN convoy... the CIA analysis leaks to the WaPo, that the US attacked a UN convoy since it was US weapons identified at the scene... anyone can look at that and say it's a load of bull...

The CIA identifies likely hackers who worked independently from any government and they used hacker tools widely available and used by many hackers are around the world. These hacker tools were made by Russian hackers but used by many hackers throughout the world. Therefore the anti-Trump CIA are able to mind read the POSSIBLE hackers intentions and deduce it was from the Russian government... anyone that reads with a Fifth grade level of understanding can poke holes in it... but the anti-Trump WaPo decides to not use their brain for an obvious anti-Trump propaganda... seriously, how do people take the news when this garbage is around and what's scary is that are government are full of liars and thieves...
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by zach_33 View Post
Is that supposed to be like the old "I know you are but what am I?" kind of retort?

Just admit that the GOP is now indelibly linked with communists Russia and the Trump is an ardent supporter of Vladimir Putin. You may think that's cool, but its not. It is an insult to me and every other American who has worked hard and fought diligently to keep this nation free and unfettered from the scourge of oppressive government, censorship, and dictatorship.

There's a lot of things Trump may be able to get away with in the eyes of GOP sheeple-land, like suppressing minority voter rights, inciting fear of immigrants, bashing gays back into the closet, outlawing abortion, etc, but getting into the sack with communist Russia? That is surprising even to me.
We know for a fact that:

-Putin endorsed Obama in 2012

-Obama promised Putin flexibility after the 2012 election

-Obama, Democrats, and the mainstream media blasted Romney for his claims about Russian intentions

-Romney ended up being correct about his claims on Russian intentions

-Putin was largely given more flexibility by Obama after the election


Are Obama and Democrats "indelibly linked with communist Russia?"
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Donna Brasille has admitted leaking questions to the Clinton campaign prior to the debate. Wasserman-Schultz had to step down from her position once it became known she was not impartial to both Dem candidates. The O'Keefe files have undercover video evidence about the program to pay people to attack Trump supporters...the person in charge of this program visited the Whitehouse hundreds of times. What issue is not real? What exactly has been fabricated??? Not once has anyone from the DNC come out and said these were fake and denied their content....just more finger pointing at the Russians.
Hey you missed the stories where these were denied. O'Keefe stuff has been proven to have been fabricated long before and he spent time in prison because of it.


Fabricated emails from both parties will be used. The GOP will be the next ones to have to fight this. When you lose your stuff you can expect it to come back one day.
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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The big issue is a foreign Gov't hacked into an election and picked what information they wanted the people of OUR country to see. Some think it is OK because of a claim that it exposed private information. All of these issues have never been shown to be real.
Statements in private emails are, by definition, real.

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In fact they have been shown to have been fabricated.
The Podesta emails were fabricated? This statement requires more tinfoil than even this forum can provide.

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The resent attack of a local nut here in Salisbury on a pizza place in DC is a perfect example of fabricated information which came out of this hack.
You're conflating pizzagate with the DNC emails? Nice try, no cigar. If you are conflating these situations accidentally, then this nation is in trouble due to its inability to think critically. If you are doing it on purpose knowing that one situation does not inform the other, then you have engaged in an especially poor form of dishonest argument.

Do you want to talk about actual dire consequences from fake news?

Let's revisit the Ferguson situation wherein "fake news" held a cop to be guilty who made a justified and legal shooting of a criminal. Ferguson Missouri was torched as a result, at least one innocent died in the immediate vicinity as a result, and the impetus of the situation directly led to the death of five Dallas police officers.

That's an example of fake news with consequences that people need to put on trial for. If the Left wants to go down this rabbit hole, then to go down it is what we shall do.
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: My House
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
We know for a fact that:

-Putin endorsed Obama in 2012

-Obama promised Putin flexibility after the 2012 election

-Obama, Democrats, and the mainstream media blasted Romney for his claims about Russian intentions

-Romney ended up being correct about his claims on Russian intentions

-Putin was largely given more flexibility by Obama after the election


Are Obama and Democrats "indelibly linked with communist Russia?"
Maybe. Should we not want to know?

I'm not keen on other governments interfering with our elections OR the running of our government. Period.
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Are you? The ones making this claim are the same ones who insisted that Trump would never win the election. They were wrong just like you were wrong about it. I would think you would have learnt a lesson from that by now.

YOU alleged "CIA says there absolutely no evidence that Russians tried to influence election.
" while supplying absolutely nothing factual supporting that allegation.

So, Fake News it is until proven otherwise.
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It is not surprising at all that Putin, ex-KGB thug, did everything in his sleazebag power to influence the US elections.

The Russians are good at this--they've been doing it in in Europe and disseminating false information in the US, as well, for years. They've found an eager, gullible and ignorant audience in the present day US, so their job is much easier.

What is very surprising is Trump's reaction to this news about his bromance buddy--murderous thug dictator, Putin. He and his posse are attacking the CIA and defending the thug--very patriotic. Trump is so easily manipulated--all Putin had to do is appeal to his bottomless ego.

It is pretty disgusting for a US PE to do this no matter how much slack you cut him for being unpresidential. You would think all those 'patriots' out there would be fairly appalled, but Trump has a very devoted cult.

Trump is not doing himself any favors by making an enemy of the US intelligence community. Useful idiot could not describe him better. Make America great? He's going to make America a laughing stock--a joke of a president. Hopefully, he'll be so jealous of Ahnuld hosting the Apprentice--he'll go back to being the the tv reality host he is. Sad!

Trump bashes CIA, dismisses Russian hacking report

Trump Team Dismisses Report Russian Hacking Was to Help Trump Win - NBC News

Trump Defends Putin
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