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Old 12-14-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So why dont you go live in the Congo?
Maybe you should live in Cuba or Venezuela.


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Yes, they allow a tiny super rich elite to dominate.
Kinda like Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea. You should enjoy their socialism.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Socialist countries fit part your description perfectly. Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, etc. Except that they have lots of taxpayer funded programs.
Well, actually Cuba abolished all taxes after the commie revolutions, and North Korea is also tax free. Recently Cuba has added some taxes due to the movement towards free(er) markets.

If its all about being tax free, then those countries are calling your name.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the glaring difference between communism, and "socialist" democracies like Sweden.

People like you continue to be confused about them.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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Socialist countries
I support social democracy. Not third world corrupt dictatorships masking as "socialist" to appeal to workers. Socialism means workers owning the means of production. Countries that claim that workers are in charge (socialist) are just lying to you. North Korea calls itself "democratic" as well. Do you believe in that as well?
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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Holy thread drift batman.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Well, actually Cuba abolished all taxes after the commie revolutions, and North Korea is also tax free. Recently Cuba has added some taxes due to the movement towards free(er) markets.

If its all about being tax free, then those countries are calling your name.

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Nope. I've never advocated tax free. We need a government.

And BTW, in Cuba they don't need taxes because the government already owns all the money and decides who gets a little money. Doctors, for example, just got a raise to $67 per MONTH.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I support social democracy. Not third world corrupt dictatorships masking as "socialist" to appeal to workers. Socialism means workers owning the means of production. Countries that claim that workers are in charge (socialist) are just lying to you. North Korea calls itself "democratic" as well. Do you believe in that as well?
Socialism always produces a dictator. Just read history.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Holy thread drift batman.
So, getting back to the OP topic.

The government website says "As of 12/14/2016 text has not been received for H.R.6489"

Does anyone really know what's in the bill?
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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in Cuba they don't need taxes because the government already owns all the money and decides who gets a little money. Doctors, for example, just got a raise to $67 per MONTH.
You said Cuba and North Korea have lots of tax payer funded programs, and I corrected you by saying they don't even collect tax (except Cuba which started collecting recently).
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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Like the majority of American's, i support SS and vote BLUE and pay my taxes.

Like the majority of Democrats, you take handouts.
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Old 12-18-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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Trump selects Mick Mulvaney to head OMB:

"A review of the bills Mulvaney has introduced reveals a strong appetite to cutting government spending, especially Medicare and Social Security. He has repeatedly pointed out that both entitlement programs are headed for bankruptcy and must be reformed." Trump's pick for budget chief could signal major shift on Medicare, Social Security | TheHill

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