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Old 12-10-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Partial Obamacare repeal would double number without health insurance by 2019

Not a small amount, but if with the elimination of the Medicaid expansion for states and collapse of the marketplace plans among other factors it looks like a big possibility.

I sort of wonder what happens to hospitals that have small profit margins now if there are 30 million more people without any sort of government reimbursement for their health care services. They are required by law to treat people for emergencies and people will just go from emergency to emergency room shopping for the hospitals that will treat the uninsured.

Supposedly, the study indicates that just 2% of the federal budget would be saved in return for the 30 million more uninsured.

109 billion dollar decrease in federal funding with a federal budget of about four trillion dollars.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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Its not about the savings for these people. It is ideological. The idea is that desperate and stressed out employees who are dependent on their employers for health care yields a more slave-like job culture, which is good for the ruling class.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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Why are there 28 million uninsured under Obamacare now?

That in itself speaks to a program that has absolutely failed to do what it sat out to do.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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Why are there 28 million uninsured under Obamacare now?

That in itself speaks to a program that has absolutely failed to do what it sat out to do.
Because they refused to sign up for an idiotic program to pay for services they didn't need or want .
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Because they refused to sign up for an idiotic program to pay for services they didn't need or want .
And it costs the ones of us who do buy Insurance at least a 150% increase the last 4 years.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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"The Urban Institute study"

Not a credible institution.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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And it costs the ones of us who do buy Insurance at least a 150% increase the last 4 years.
I think the average premium increase over the last 4 years have been closer to 600%. Maybe 650%.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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"The Urban Institute study"

Not a credible institution.
Indeed.
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Old 12-10-2016, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Partial Obamacare repeal would double number without health insurance by 2019

Not a small amount, but if with the elimination of the Medicaid expansion for states and collapse of the marketplace plans among other factors it looks like a big possibility.

I sort of wonder what happens to hospitals that have small profit margins now if there are 30 million more people without any sort of government reimbursement for their health care services. They are required by law to treat people for emergencies and people will just go from emergency to emergency room shopping for the hospitals that will treat the uninsured.

Supposedly, the study indicates that just 2% of the federal budget would be saved in return for the 30 million more uninsured.

109 billion dollar decrease in federal funding with a federal budget of about four trillion dollars.
The projected impact on hospitals here:

AHA Report: ACA Repeal without a Replacement Could Cost Hospitals Billions | Healthcare Informatics Magazine | Health IT | Information Technology
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:57 PM
 
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If Obamacare is repealed, wouldn't it be about time to TAX those untaxed EMPLOYEE HEALTHCARE BENEFITS?

Can you justify the uninsured burger flipper subsidizing the fringe benefits of the rest of us?
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