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Let's get something straight. They're not "our" agreements. I never endorsed them, and I certainly don't respect them. The same can be said for at least half the country.
True! I never agreed to elect Trump, does that mean he isn't my president? What about all the people who think laws that they haven't agreed to don't apply to them. Are they right as well?
This has huge consequence for the rule of law.
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As far as your "elementary school mentality", only a child would think there's a creative way to solve a problem without actually removing the problem. We have a major problem with one-sided trade agreements.
One sided? Do you realize Mexico is our largest market for exporting cars from this country? NAFTA makes Mexican oil much cheaper, and lowers our dependence on the Middle east for oil. The list goes on and on.
Maybe we need to take a giant step back, and try to have you define your so called "problem" because it doesn't seem to take into account both sides of the issue.....
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The solution for that is to dissolve said agreements, and create new ones. When you're getting screwed, the solution to that isn't to keep getting screwed until you can convince the other side to stop screwing you. You stop the other side from screwing you, period. Because as long as you play these little weenie liberal games that amount to anything short of decisive action, the other side thinks they hold all the cards. One cannot negotiate from a position of weakness. "Grown ups" lol..... Children high on their own misguided education, delivered by other mental children that have never seen it work in practice. Oh and believe me, I know that's where your opinion comes from. It certainly doesn't come from actual business experience. It comes from a professor.
Hmm, I don't think I am going to take advice from someone who refuses to acknowledge that NAFTA has benefits, and dissolving it will do a massive amount of harm.
And please, spare us the academia blather, I maybe a teacher but my family has owned and operated its own businesses (two major ones to be clear) for the better part of 80 years. I understand small businesses, or maybe middling one is a better term, since my cousins and siblings and I run them to this day.
But to be honest, I am not really surprised that someone who espouses an overly simplistic answer to a complicated problem is also anti-education. It is all part and parcel of the same problem. Don't worry you are not unique in that way by any means. Luckily more informed people are at the reins. As an aside, you might want to brush up on your constitutional law, that stuff in the beginning about it not being "our" agreement, is a dangerously slippery slope that I suspect you will not want to pursue.
True! I never agreed to elect Trump, does that mean he isn't my president? What about all the people who think laws that they haven't agreed to don't apply to them. Are they right as well?
This has huge consequence for the rule of law.
One sided? Do you realize Mexico is our largest market for exporting cars from this country? NAFTA makes Mexican oil much cheaper, and lowers our dependence on the Middle east for oil. The list goes on and on.
Maybe we need to take a giant step back, and try to have you define your so called "problem" because it doesn't seem to take into account both sides of the issue.....
Hmm, I don't think I am going to take advice from someone who refuses to acknowledge that NAFTA has benefits, and dissolving it will do a massive amount of harm.
And please, spare us the academia blather, I maybe a teacher but my family has owned and operated its own businesses (two major ones to be clear) for the better part of 80 years. I understand small businesses, or maybe middling one is a better term, since my cousins and siblings and I run them to this day.
But to be honest, I am not really surprised that someone who espouses an overly simplistic answer to a complicated problem is also anti-education. It is all part and parcel of the same problem. Don't worry you are not unique in that way by any means. Luckily more informed people are at the reins. As an aside, you might want to brush up on your constitutional law, that stuff in the beginning about it not being "our" agreement, is a dangerously slippery slope that I suspect you will not want to pursue.
They can pay the new tariff when they bring their products into the US.
You are making up a new tariff.
Trump proposed a new tariff specifically for companies that currently manufacture in the US. The tariff only applies when they move manufacturing from the US to another country.
If a US company currently manufactures in China but switches to Mexico, they wouldn't be subject to Trump's proposed tariff, because they didn't take manufacturing work from the US to Mexico.
Let's get something straight. They're not "our" agreements. I never endorsed them, and I certainly don't respect them. The same can be said for at least half the country.
As far as your "elementary school mentality", only a child would think there's a creative way to solve a problem without actually removing the problem. We have a major problem with one-sided trade agreements. The solution for that is to dissolve said agreements, and create new ones. When you're getting screwed, the solution to that isn't to keep getting screwed until you can convince the other side to stop screwing you. You stop the other side from screwing you, period. Because as long as you play these little weenie liberal games that amount to anything short of decisive action, the other side thinks they hold all the cards. One cannot negotiate from a position of weakness. "Grown ups" lol..... Children high on their own misguided education, delivered by other mental children that have never seen it work in practice. Oh and believe me, I know that's where your opinion comes from. It certainly doesn't come from actual business experience. It comes from a professor.
I agree , I could never understand the mentality that if you kiss someones butt enough they'll play nicety nice .
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