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Old 12-20-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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I posted the part that has happened. Nothing. You posted the dismissed scare tactics. They do far more harm than good. They allow people in their minds to dismiss the entire argument.

Global warming, climate change, whatever.....we should get as clean as we reasonably can regardless.
You can dismiss whatever you want, you don't need to believe in gravity for it to work. You don't need to believe in atomic theory for chemical reactions to occur. Likewise you don't need to believe in climate science for the climate to change.

You don't make policy. Your understanding is not required. That is the cool part, it happens anyway.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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Ah, so you think just saying that negates peer reviewed literature?
By the way, peer reviewed literature is generally worthless, as you would know if you've been in the field for 25 years.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Wait...you think I study hurricanes? Why would you think that?
No, I don't think you study hurricanes. If you did, you'd probably not have such poor beliefs about them (although, who knows).
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Ah, so you think just saying that negates peer reviewed literature?
You can not peer review theory that has not happened and has failed for years. Peer reviewing failed predictions do not make them any less of a failure.

"well, heck, we agree it was a good theory". Besides, we already covered this. The IPCC had to eat crow and admit that papers they claimed were peer reviewed never were or that the peer review was hardly all the same.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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By the way, peer reviewed literature is generally worthless, as you would know if you've been in the field for 25 years.
Peer reviewed research papers are worthless, based on you're opinion?


So what are your standards for research.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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You can dismiss whatever you want, you don't need to believe in gravity for it to work.
We experience gravity everyday. Not so with all the failed prediction of doom and gloom.

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You don't need to believe in atomic theory for chemical reactions to occur. Likewise you don't need to believe in climate science for the climate to change.

You don't make policy. Your understanding is not required. That is the cool part, it happens anyway.
My agreement is required or we would have enacted many of the draconian measures that have been called for.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: NH
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Again...regardless if humans cause global warming or not, isn't it common sense to protect the environment so we have clean air to breath, clean water to drink, etc? I compare this to sitting in a smoke filled room. Does the cigarette smoke peel the paint off the ceiling or does it just naturally occur over time? Scientist A says it does but Scientist B says it doesn't...this data doesn't really matter as I just want to breath clean air. Common sense says that there isn't an economy to worry about if we don't have an environment to live in.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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Peer reviewed research papers are worthless, based on you're opinion?


So what are your standards for research.
No, based on my fact. Anyone who has ever read a peer reviewed paper in their field is quite aware that it means nothing to be "peer reviewed." Only people who are non-scientists believe otherwise. That would apparently include you.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Again...regardless if humans cause global warming or not, isn't it common sense to protect the environment so we have clean air to breath, clean water to drink, etc? I compare this to sitting in a smoke filled room. Does the cigarette smoke peel the paint off the ceiling or does it just naturally occur over time? Scientist A says it does but Scientist B says it doesn't...this data doesn't really matter as I just want to breath clean air. Common sense says that there isn't an economy to worry about if we don't have an environment to live in.
It makes a lot of sense on many levels, cleaner environment, savings on energy but some people don't want to cut back or pay extra for their life style. The US is one of leading consumers per capita of fossil fuels, we are addicted to cheap energy.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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Again...regardless if humans cause global warming or not, isn't it common sense to protect the environment so we have clean air to breath, clean water to drink, etc? I compare this to sitting in a smoke filled room. Does the cigarette smoke peel the paint off the ceiling or does it just naturally occur over time? Scientist A says it does but Scientist B says it doesn't...this data doesn't really matter as I just want to breath clean air. Common sense says that there isn't an economy to worry about if we don't have an environment to live in.
I've been making this argument all along.
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