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Old 12-23-2016, 09:09 PM
 
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I think we should note that Russia voted for the resolution, so effectively Obama sided with, gasp, the evil Putin on this, while Trump forcefully said the US should veto it.
Yep, so much for the Trump as Putin's puppet talk.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:12 PM
 
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In contrast, the problems the U.S. faces in the Persian Gulf today comes from the fact that it does not have an Israel equivalent there. Absent a strong, loyal, and dependable ally in the region, the U.S. has had to deploy, redeploy, and redeploy again, at a cost that easily exceeds a trillion dollars.

From Lyndon Johnson on, most have come to see that US support for Israel has been the most cost-effective national security investment for America since World War II .
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:13 PM
 
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In the field of military intelligence Israel is arguably the world's leading expert in collecting intelligence on terrorist groups and in counter-terrorism. It provides intelligence and know-how to the U.S. According to Maj. Gen. George J. Keegan Jr., former head of U.S. Air Force intelligence, America's military defense capability "owes more to the Israeli intelligence input than it does to any single source of intelligence," the worth of which input, he estimated, exceeds "five CIAs.

So Why did they attack us?
New revelations in attack on American spy ship - Chicago Tribune
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:15 PM
 
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This is the first time since 1979 that the US has allowed something like this to pass. Trump talks to Taiwan and its the end of the world. Obama does this and its no big deal.
These are the same people who say that Trump will get us into another war as if we haven't been at war the entire freaking time of Obama's presidency.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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Israel fights the same Islamo-fascist terrorism that brought down our World Trade Center, blew up the Pentagon, killed more than 3,000 American civilians, and cost our economy as yet billions of dollars. Because of the continuous exchange information, and analyses in counterterrorism, Israel helps keep America safe.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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The attack on the Liberty "a tragic and terrible accident, a case of mistaken identity, for which Israel has officially apologized. Israel also paid reparations of $6.7 million to the injured survivors and the families of those killed in the attack, and another $6 million for the loss of the Liberty itself.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Yes, but defending Israel settlements on Palestinian land is not about defending American interests.
As America becomes less and less dependent in Middle Eastern oil and is finally weened off them as a supplier, what are the American interests in the Middle East left to be?
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Dem Senators Siding With Trump Over Obama In UN Brouhaha

Actually, they're siding with Israel, as is Trump.

That doesn't mean they've joined up with Trump anywhere but on this one particular issue.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Israel has frozen construction a few times, under the Obama Administration, already in an attempt to get the Palestinian Authority (Abbas) to start talks. Yet Abbas aborted them all. Why should Israel listen to a resolution when their counterpart refuses to do anything in return? No matter what Israel does, Abbas will create a new item for Israel not to do.

Yes they have stopped construction at times but they have always continued, even today they ignore the world and continue. There is no reason for Israel to continue with settlements, it accomplishes nothing and destroys any remote prospects for peace.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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As America becomes less and less dependent in Middle Eastern oil and is finally weened off them as a supplier, what are the American interests in the Middle East left to be?
Aren't you reading? Iran see's the U.S. as the great satan and they chant Death to America. They also think they can usher in the end times. Yea, sounds crazy but if they get nukes they can do a lot of killing. Just because we are less dependent on their oil and hopefully even less once Obama leaves, we still need intelligence or they will rein terror on the U.S. as they never did before, so far to them it's child's play. And without Israel we won't have the intel. They want to kill the infidel... that is you and me.
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