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Old 01-11-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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True or false? And you're welcome Mr. Trump...

America would reverse a great recession, reboot our auto industry, and unleash the longest stretch of job creation in our history

open up a new chapter with the Cuban people, shut down Iran's nuclear weapons program without firing a shot, take out the mastermind of 9/11

win marriage equality, and secure the right to health insurance for another 20 million of our fellow citizens

we remain the wealthiest, most powerful, and most respected nation on Earth.

Our youth, our drive, our diversity and openness, our boundless capacity for risk and reinvention means that the future should be ours.

But that potential will only be realized if our democracy works. Only if our politics better reflects the decency of our people.

To begin with, our democracy won't work without a sense that everyone has economic opportunity. And the good news is that today the economy is growing again. Wages, incomes, home values, and retirement accounts are all rising again. Poverty is falling again.

The wealthy are paying a fairer share of taxes even as the stock market shatters records. The unemployment rate is near a 10-year low. The uninsured rate has never, ever been lower. Health care costs are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years.

But stark inequality is also corrosive to our democratic ideal. While the top one percent has amassed a bigger share of wealth and income, too many families, in inner cities and in rural counties, have been left behind — the laid-off factory worker; the waitress or health care worker who's just barely getting by and struggling to pay the bills — convinced that the game is fixed against them, that their government only serves the interests of the powerful — that's a recipe for more cynicism and polarization in our politics.

But there are no quick fixes to this long-term trend.

And so we're going to have to forge a new social compact to guarantee all our kids the education they need

to give workers the power to unionize for better wages; to update the social safety net to reflect the way we live now, and make more reforms to the tax code so corporations and individuals who reap the most from this new economy don't avoid their obligations to the country that's made their very success possible.

race relations are better than they were 10, or 20, or 30 years ago, no matter what some folks say.

we have shown that our economy doesn't have to be a zero-sum game. Last year, incomes rose for all races, all age groups, for men and for women.

we need to uphold laws against discrimination — in hiring, and in housing, and in education, and in the criminal justice system. (Applause.) That is what our Constitution and our highest ideals require.

For blacks and other minority groups, it means tying our own very real struggles for justice to the challenges that a lot of people in this country face — not only the refugee, or the immigrant, or the rural poor, or the transgender American, but also the middle-aged white guy who, from the outside, may seem like he's got advantages, but has seen his world upended by economic and cultural and technological change. We have to pay attention, and listen.

For white Americans, it means acknowledging that the effects of slavery and Jim Crow didn't suddenly vanish in the '60s

For too many of us, it's become safer to retreat into our own bubbles, whether in our neighborhoods or on college campuses, or places of worship, or especially our social media feeds, surrounded by people who look like us and share the same political outlook and never challenge our assumptions.

But without some common baseline of facts, without a willingness to admit new information, and concede that your opponent might be making a fair point, and that science and reason matter then we're going to keep talking past each other, and we'll make common ground and compromise impossible.

In just eight years, we've halved our dependence on foreign oil; we've doubled our renewable energy; we've led the world to an agreement that has the promise to save this planet.

That order is now being challenged — first by violent fanatics who claim to speak for Islam; more recently by autocrats in foreign capitals who see free markets and open democracies and and civil society itself as a threat to their power. The peril each poses to our democracy is more far-reaching than a car bomb or a missile. It represents the fear of change; the fear of people who look or speak or pray differently; a contempt for the rule of law that holds leaders accountable; an intolerance of dissent and free thought; a belief that the sword or the gun or the bomb or the propaganda machine is the ultimate arbiter of what's true and what's right.

Because of the extraordinary courage of our men and women in uniform, because of our intelligence officers, and law enforcement, and diplomats who support our troops no foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland these past eight years.

And although Boston and Orlando and San Bernardino and Fort Hood remind us of how dangerous radicalization can be, our law enforcement agencies are more effective and vigilant than ever. We have taken out tens of thousands of terrorists — including bin Laden.

The global coalition we're leading against ISIL has taken out their leaders, and taken away about half their territory. ISIL will be destroyed, and no one who threatens America will ever be safe.

put the fight against terrorism on a firmer legal footing. That's why we've ended torture, worked to close Gitmo, reformed our laws governing surveillance to protect privacy and civil liberties.

reject discrimination against Muslim Americans, who are just as patriotic as we are.

they cannot defeat America unless we betray our Constitution and our principles in the fight. Rivals like Russia or China cannot match our influence around the world — unless we give up what we stand for and turn ourselves into just another big country that bullies smaller neighbors.

voting rates in America are some of the lowest among advanced democracies, we should be making it easier, not harder, to vote.

we should reduce the corrosive influence of money in our politics, and insist on the principles of transparency and ethics in public service.

If something needs fixing, then lace up your shoes and do some organizing.

If you're disappointed by your elected officials, grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office yourself. Show up. Dive in. Stay at it.

especially so many young people out there — to believe that you can make a difference — to hitch your wagon to something bigger than yourselves.

this generation coming up — unselfish, altruistic, creative, patriotic

https://www.whitehouse.gov/farewell
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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WESLEY LOWERY, The Washington Post: You know, it is certainly accurate and true that we are seeing some of the lowest levels of crime in the history of the United States of America. The Obama years are some of the most peaceful years in American history as it relates to crime.

I think New York City just had the least violent year in its modern recorded history. Now, that means very little to a family living in West Englewood, Chicago, right, or in Englewood, or in many of the neighborhoods in Baltimore and even here in D.C.

And so we have — what we have certainly seen is that the majority of the country has become safer, and yet the places that are dangerous have become more dangerous.

If half the above is true, progress has been made these 8 years. Right? Or can it be denied we are better off than we were 8 years ago on most counts?
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Obama giving himself credit - speaking in circles - trying to please everyone who thinks the world owes them something. doesn't surprise me in the least.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: United States
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You, and Obama enjoy your delusional view of the last eight years.

Here in reality, Obama's legacy is almost gone, and he hasn't even left office yet.

Soon all that will be left of Obama's legacy is the memory of the damage done by his regressive left domestic policies, and the outer destruction left by his neocon warmongering foreign policy.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Must be nice to live in a bubble.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Must be nice to live in a bubble.
We'll all see what a contrast the coming twitterverse will be.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Nevada
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My farewell speech for Obama sums it up in two words, Good Riddance.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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History will judge Obama kindly. Once the cloud of the current polarization and racial tension lifts, people will look back on the Obama years and realize they weren't as bad as conservatives thought they were. When the Trump recession hits, people will look back on Obama's economy like they do Clinton's.

Let's face it. A big part of the reason so many people hate Obama and can't even acknowledge the good that has happened under his watch is because they cannot give credit to somebody who looks different than them.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Must be nice to live in a bubble.
So far every comment suggesting the listed accomplishments are not true offer no indication whatsoever as to why. I am sincere in my interest to give credit where credit is due, not so much where not (as also covered in an another thread I started yesterday, more critical of Obama, that should be clear enough about my sincere want for balance and/or truth as well).

So out with it! Pick your favorite Obama claims and explain why you think he does not speak the truth. This is what I am most interested in, what I think all Americans should be most focused upon. When you offer nothing but the contrary without any substantiation whatsoever, you are no doubt one of the "truth doesn't matter" folks that may be the biggest problem America now faces.

If you can't be specific as to what claims Obama makes that are not true, and why, if you can't explain yourself, then I'm not the one "living in a bubble!" You are! More importantly, if you can't point out why Obama's claims are not true, then perhaps that's still more evidence they are in fact truths. Right?

Perhaps even better, if you can't explain yourself, don't bother with the "peanut gallery" comments.

Obama's claims will stand true with or without your nonsense, until proven otherwise...

Fair?

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Old 01-11-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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History will judge Obama kindly. Once the cloud of the current polarization and racial tension lifts, people will look back on the Obama years and realize they weren't as bad as conservatives thought they were. When the Trump recession hits, people will look back on Obama's economy like they do Clinton's.

Let's face it. A big part of the reason so many people hate Obama and can't even acknowledge the good that has happened under his watch is because they cannot give credit to somebody who looks different than them.
Perhaps, but I think it might have more to do with the fact that people just cannot accept or admit when they are wrong. They cannot give credit where due if that credit goes against their agenda, their side, their guy. Just a characteristic of human nature very difficult to deal with but obviously prevalent among most Americans in general. A pretty big fundamental problem if you ask me...

Just scan these many threads and count the number of times people have admitted they are wrong about something when clearly proven wrong, no matter whether liberal or conservative, Obama or Trump supporter, you won't find anything of the kind as a general rule.
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