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Old 01-14-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The governors of Maryland and Missouri command those national guards.
Facts no longer matter. We live in TrumpWorld now.
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Old 01-14-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Kibby, the issue is not that he's being replaced, it's that its effective at 12:01. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Then the headline of, "Trump lets head of DC National Guard go, during inauguration", is Fake News.

It is a complete fabricated lie.
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Old 01-14-2017, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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And? Trump didn't single him out, he is simply terminating all Obama's political appointments as of noon on January 20th. Is it somehow a big deal if that happens at noon, rather than at 5:00? I think that's referred to as draining the swamp.

Leftists are continuing to make themselves look like such a bunch of morons by trying to make an issue of nothing. Funny thing is they all get their marching orders from one or two places. Within an hour I saw this story on 3-4 Facebook pages as well as here.
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Old 01-14-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Facts no longer matter. We live in TrumpWorld now.
Right and you progressives will be lying to make him look bad no matter what he does. Case in point: this thread.
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Except where there's no state (DC). This man is literally in charge of security for the inauguration, including air support, and they're letting him go in the middle of the ceremony.
The military has a chain of command. That includes the National guard. That means the head of the DC national guard has a second, third fourth and so on. How many Generals has Obama relieved, fired or sent packing? Did the world come to an end? Did our mission suddenly collapse? This is the advantage of the Military style of leadership. Very little hinges upon 1 individual. It may cause inconvenience, but little more.
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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Kibby, the issue is not that he's being replaced, it's that its effective at 12:01. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
1). Trump has already said he has nothing to do with this - all the other Generals still have their jobs.
2) Exactly what part of "Mandatory Retirement 1 month after attaining age 65 do you not understand?

This is a FAKE NEWS scam ..... and it comes from the White House and Pentagon.
General Schwartz is on the Job in Nov, Dec, Jan only because he got a waiver from President Obama to stay after he reached age 65. That certainly makes sense to me to let his finish out the Obama term.

BUT - he is under a Mandatory Retirement Law and that is why General Schwartz and ONLY General Schwartz from the District of Columbia National Guard has to retire. It's ALL in the links that YOU choose to ignore.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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And? Trump didn't single him out, he is simply terminating all Obama's political appointments as of noon on January 20th. Is it somehow a big deal if that happens at noon, rather than at 5:00? I think that's referred to as draining the swamp.

Leftists are continuing to make themselves look like such a bunch of morons by trying to make an issue of nothing. Funny thing is they all get their marching orders from one or two places. Within an hour I saw this story on 3-4 Facebook pages as well as here.
Why is Bentbow stating that this was Obama's doing though? Also, leftists aren't making this an issue. Stars and Stripes is reporting it this way. They have not ever been considered leftist.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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Why is Bentbow stating that this was Obama's doing though? Also, leftists aren't making this an issue. Stars and Stripes is reporting it this way. They have not ever been considered leftist.
So ....... do you not understand what a LINK is?

General Schwartz had a Mandatory Retirement date in November - the only way he could keep his post is by either the Secretary of Defense or a Presidential waiver extension ... which he clearly received, signed by President Obama. This was a very thoughtful waiver - it allows the next President to choose the Commander of the District of Columbia National Guard. Major General Schwartz had over 8 years in that post - a normal tour is 2-4 years.

Other than voluntary retirement, statute sets a number of mandates for retirement of general officers (called flag officers in the Navy and Coast Guard). All major generals must retire after five years in grade or 35 years of service, whichever is later, unless appointed for promotion or reappointed to grade to serve longer. Otherwise, all general officers must retire the month after their 64th birthday. However, the Secretary of Defense may defer a general officer's retirement until the officer's 66th birthday and the President may defer it until the officer's 68th birthday. Because there are a finite number of General Officer positions, one officer must retire before another can be promoted. As a result, general officers typically retire well in advance of the statutory age and service limits, so as not to impede the upward career mobility of their juniors.

The waiver itself would have only been good as long as Obama is President - Donald Trump had ZERO to do with any of this. The "Army pushed to replace him" because LAW says he is past his sell by date of November 2016.

A person close to the transition said transition officials wanted to keep Schwartz in the job for continuity, but the Army pushed to replace him.

Schwartz, who was appointed to head the Guard by President George W. Bush in 2008, maintained the position through President Obama’s two terms. He said his orders came from the Pentagon in the form of an email that names his interim successor, a brigadier general, who takes over at 12:01 p.m. next Friday.


The Washington Post headline is Inflammatory and the entire point of it to to promote "Outrage" against President Elect Trump. It's FAKE NEWS and a poor reflection on Schwartz, WashPo, TeamObama, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of Defense AND the US National Guard. Their silence and lack of explanation is promoting a False narrative ....... and so is everyone in this thread that is ignoring the LAW. Not a single person or 'reporter' has speculated (or even asked) why ONLY one of the D.C. National Guard Leadership was "fired by Donald Trump" .... They either knew why (or are too stupid to find out why) OR they deliberately wrote the story to smear President Elect Trump.


BRIGADIER GENERAL WILLIAM J. WALKER

Commander, Land Component Command,
District of Columbia Army National Guard

Brigadier General William J. Walker is the Commander, Land Component Command, District of Columbia Army National Guard. He assumed command in April 2015 and is responsible for the strategic leadership, training, logistics, maintenance, readiness and operational employment of units assigned and or attached to the District of Columbia Army National Guard. He ensures the District of Columbia Joint Task Force responds effectively to District of Columbia and Federal missions in support of homeland defense, national security and disasters.


General Walker is the Operational Leader, the person in charge of the Task Force and he is running the entire Inaugural Operation. General Schwartz is not "leaving in the middle of a mission" - he never had that mission.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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Except there is no proof that he did, so what does it say about you?
I'm going with hyper-partisan.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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So ....... do you not understand what a LINK is?

General Schwartz had a Mandatory Retirement date in November - the only way he could keep his post is by either the Secretary of Defense or a Presidential waiver extension ... which he clearly received, signed by President Obama. This was a very thoughtful waiver - it allows the next President to choose the Commander of the District of Columbia National Guard. Major General Schwartz had over 8 years in that post - a normal tour is 2-4 years.

Other than voluntary retirement, statute sets a number of mandates for retirement of general officers (called flag officers in the Navy and Coast Guard). All major generals must retire after five years in grade or 35 years of service, whichever is later, unless appointed for promotion or reappointed to grade to serve longer. Otherwise, all general officers must retire the month after their 64th birthday. However, the Secretary of Defense may defer a general officer's retirement until the officer's 66th birthday and the President may defer it until the officer's 68th birthday. Because there are a finite number of General Officer positions, one officer must retire before another can be promoted. As a result, general officers typically retire well in advance of the statutory age and service limits, so as not to impede the upward career mobility of their juniors.

The waiver itself would have only been good as long as Obama is President - Donald Trump had ZERO to do with any of this. The "Army pushed to replace him" because LAW says he is past his sell by date of November 2016.

A person close to the transition said transition officials wanted to keep Schwartz in the job for continuity, but the Army pushed to replace him.

Schwartz, who was appointed to head the Guard by President George W. Bush in 2008, maintained the position through President Obama’s two terms. He said his orders came from the Pentagon in the form of an email that names his interim successor, a brigadier general, who takes over at 12:01 p.m. next Friday.


The Washington Post headline is Inflammatory and the entire point of it to to promote "Outrage" against President Elect Trump. It's FAKE NEWS and a poor reflection on Schwartz, WashPo, TeamObama, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of Defense AND the US National Guard. Their silence and lack of explanation is promoting a False narrative ....... and so is everyone in this thread that is ignoring the LAW. Not a single person or 'reporter' has speculated (or even asked) why ONLY one of the D.C. National Guard Leadership was "fired by Donald Trump" .... They either knew why (or are too stupid to find out why) OR they deliberately wrote the story to smear President Elect Trump.


BRIGADIER GENERAL WILLIAM J. WALKER

Commander, Land Component Command,
District of Columbia Army National Guard

Brigadier General William J. Walker is the Commander, Land Component Command, District of Columbia Army National Guard. He assumed command in April 2015 and is responsible for the strategic leadership, training, logistics, maintenance, readiness and operational employment of units assigned and or attached to the District of Columbia Army National Guard. He ensures the District of Columbia Joint Task Force responds effectively to District of Columbia and Federal missions in support of homeland defense, national security and disasters.


General Walker is the Operational Leader, the person in charge of the Task Force and he is running the entire Inaugural Operation. General Schwartz is not "leaving in the middle of a mission" - he never had that mission.
There's no need to be condescending to me. I asked why BentBow was saying it was all Obama's fault in an accusatory fashion. I still don't see, above, how it's Obama's fault. He gave him a waiver to stay past the retirement date until the end of his presidency.

I agree with the assessment that it's not Trump's fault either. He issued a widespread order for all political appointees to be gone at 12:01.

I guess I'm still left wondering why the General seems to not like what has happened. Did Trump not offer him time to stay?

I do feel that this is one particular post that should have had the leader wait until the end of the inaugural activities, but as another poster stated, I'm sure there's a long command chain for this event and all will be fine.
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