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Old 01-27-2017, 05:40 AM
 
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This sounds like those ALTERNATIVE FACTS trumpeters Love so much.
Facts, alternative facts -- both are facts, and you're going to have to deal with them.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:41 AM
 
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If you read posts before, Trumpeters were denying that NAFTA would ever be finished and that We Mexicans would have to pay the wall, It happens that Trump is making Trumpeters to eat their shoes, He is ending Nafta and making US citizens to pay for the Wall.
Love the phrase, "eat their shoes."

The budget proposed by the Republicans did not include building the wall, yet it is still in the hole. (Google Paul Rand's rant on their deficit budget proposal if you doubt this.)

So we are going to put the construction costs of some $25 billion (and when has a government construction project ever run under budget?) on the national credit card, raising the national debt.

Plans to pay off this debt include slapping a 20% tariff on imports from Mexico, meaning taxpayers will paying for the cost of construction plus the interest on the costs.

Meanwhile, our bridges are literally falling apart.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:44 AM
 
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Facts, alternative facts -- both are facts, and you're going to have to deal with them.
Both are not facts.

"Alternative facts" are lies.

While some may want to believe that 2+2=9 is an "alternative fact," the rest of us are not so easily duped.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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Facts, alternative facts -- both are facts, and you're going to have to deal with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_zZY7lgfzo
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:48 AM
 
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Love the phrase, "eat their shoes."

The budget proposed by the Republicans did not include building the wall, yet it is still in the hole. (Google Paul Rand's rant on their deficit budget proposal if you doubt this.)

So we are going to put the construction costs of some $25 billion (and when has a government construction project ever run under budget?) on the national credit card, raising the national debt.

Plans to pay off this debt include slapping a 20% tariff on imports from Mexico, meaning taxpayers will paying for the cost of construction plus the interest on the costs.

Meanwhile, our bridges are literally falling apart.
$25 billion is nothing -- less than 1% of the $3.5 trillion federal budget.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:49 AM
 
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Both are not facts.

"Alternative facts" are lies.

While some may want to believe that 2+2=9 is an "alternative fact," the rest of us are not so easily duped.
Facts are facts, so when you say "alternative facts," you're just referring to a set of different facts.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

If you want to refer to lies, then simply say "lies."

Clarity in the use of English is a good thing, and something I highly recommend.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:58 AM
 
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Mexico will become a more advanced nation than the United States within a decade.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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Mexico will become a more advanced nation than the United States within a decade.
Yes, I'm sure it will.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:05 AM
 
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I was supportive of NAFTA but a look at its pros and cons years after its implementation is just smart business. It should be mutually beneficial, it seems like the current agreement is more favorable to Mexico than the USA so what's wrong with renegotiation?
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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Mexico will become a more advanced nation than the United States within a decade.
I don't think so, this 4 years of Trump's administration, Relations between USA and Mexico will be seriously damaged, and despite Mexico could sign a deal with China it wont make North America stronger
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