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Old 01-25-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Great post. And link. Had no idea THAT many illegal democrats snuck in to vote. Now the next step is to call out democrats on illegal voting. Shameless.
Great link? Did you access the article referenced in the link? I did not, because I didn't want to pay $9.95 to read the paper.


However, in another post I read that a research paper claimed 14% of illegals were registered to vote. I think Trump may have twisted that in his mind to mean that 14% of the voters were illegals. It's not the same.


Let's say you have 1000 potential voters in a city, and 80 of them (8%) are illegals. If 15% of those register and vote, that is 12 illegal votes, or 1.2%. The fallacy would be if you said 15% of votes were illegal, which would be 150 votes.
If there are 11 million illegals in the US, let's say 2/3 are of voting age, to get 3 million illegal votes as Trump claims would mean that nearly half of illegal aliens voted, which is clearly preposterous.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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I admit it's very likely that large numbers of illegals did vote,....
based on what evidence?

CA requires a driver's license or ID card ( AB-60 "illegal immigrant driver's license" are not accepted ) and a social security number to register to vote. how do you believe "large numbers" of illegal immigrants are registering to vote?

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.... but there's simply no proof...
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... of that so there's no real reason to keep bringing it up.
i absolutelely disagree.

if "3-5million" or even "large numbers" of illegal votes were counted as legitimate then that's a HUGE defect in our voting process and should be a top priority for congress to investigate immediately! if not then it should be called out for what it is, absolute BS.

we can disagree on subjective opinion, not objective facts.

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Old 01-25-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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If Trump has an investigation into this he may well regret it greatly.

We know it is false, and as such if he forces his people to lie and create a report that backs him up, it will likely be his undoing...

Trumps ego is so big , he will likely do whatever it takes including throwing his own people to the wolves....
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: London
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Can someone please explain why this is such a pressing issue to him when he won the Presidency as it is anyway?

Is it just because he's worried about 2020?
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Trump is corrupt and THAT has been proven.
That's an opinion, not a fact.
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Great link? Did you access the article referenced in the link? I did not, because I didn't want to pay $9.95 to read the paper.


However, in another post I read that a research paper claimed 14% of illegals were registered to vote. I think Trump may have twisted that in his mind to mean that 14% of the voters were illegals. It's not the same.


Let's say you have 1000 potential voters in a city, and 80 of them (8%) are illegals. If 15% of those register and vote, that is 12 illegal votes, or 1.2%. The fallacy would be if you said 15% of votes were illegal, which would be 150 votes.
If there are 11 million illegals in the US, let's say 2/3 are of voting age, to get 3 million illegal votes as Trump claims would mean that nearly half of illegal aliens voted, which is clearly preposterous.



too many facts for trumpettes
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Everyone call your senators and representatives to insist on a 50 state independent investigation. Call every day until it happens.
When I called this morning my senators and representative offices said that there was no proof of voter fraud but they are republicans so what would they know.

Call! Call NOW! Call every day until there is a reaction!
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Trump doesn't pay taxes.

He is the last person who should be talking about legal vs. illegal.
Trump pays the amount he is legally required to pay. He's been autited almost every yr and not found to have violated any tax laws.
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Can someone please explain why this is such a pressing issue to him when he won the Presidency as it is anyway?

Is it just because he's worried about 2020?
It goes along with the often regurgitated claim by the left that "Hillary won the popular vote", yet another attempt to delegitimize his presidency. Though it's denied with a vengeance by the left/Democrats, it's likely many of those votes came from illegal aliens. Especially as they came mostly from CA, and the Obama administration, Obama included, encouraged illegals to vote.
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Why are Democrats against simple voter ID laws? Obviously they have been benefiting from illegal votes. Traitorous scum.
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