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And the Left's solution to that is to raise the minimum wage and add more regulation that make the cost of doing business in America even more expensive, or, in the case of the small businesses who you say employ and create the majority of new jobs, make it even harder for them to get started in the first place.
Yeah, that makes sense.....
Obama/democrats tried to give small businesses both tax cuts and lending aid (but republicans in congress stopped both laws from passing.)
But since republicans practice supply side economics and say its the rich and large corporations that create all the jobs (republicans will naturally block small business tax cuts and lending aid.)
My opinion. Neither party is all that great towards Blacks. However, this is what I see. Both parties have their hands in the illegal immigration issue. Both parties are soft.
Historically, Blacks have often been last preferred, and first fired. Part of me thinks that even if illegal immigration was deterred, there would be a preference of immigrants over Blacks. Years ago I heard someone on this forum mention he/she would rather hire Mexicans over Blacks because "Blacks were too much trouble".
The way I see it, Blacks are basically put last by BOTH parties. What next?
Your thread is an attempt at belittling black folks...it's not a real inquiry.
You made a mistake in assuming that. I didn't ask the question not really seeking an answer. I don't really blame you for jumping to that conclusion though, what with all the idiots chiming in with their generic "free stuff" and "Obamaphone" answers, it's hard to know who's sincere and who's just trying to set you up.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt up front and assume their inquiry is genuine until they prove otherwise, because if you don't, no serious conversations can ever be had. If you assume everyone is a detractor, then all you'll ever encounter are detractors.
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Hell, if you really wanted to know, you could just ask a black person yourself that you know personally. But you don't know any blacks...do you?
I know 2 black people, and not very well at that. I'm not going to sit here like so many other phonies do and say I have a myriad of black friends, because I don't. I'm not a phony. It's not a matter of choice, more rather, just a matter of circumstance. I live and work in a predominantly white area.
Even if I did have a close black friend, I certainly wouldn't ask them political questions that could quickly lead to heated and sour discussion. Political discussion among friends isn't polite. The anonymity and distance of an internet forum create a unique opportunity where these issues can be discussed openly and honestly without having to worry about the specter of hurt feelings, but that only works if you have people on both sides willing to engage.
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You're free to assume what you want to assume. It's no skin off our collective backs.
That's fine, but just know that you create a void that gets filled by racists and bigots when you refuse to be a part of the discussion. When they say you vote for Democrats because of all the "free stuff", or that you've just been conditioned to vote that way, and you provide no alternative explanation, suddenly people start to believe the nonsense because you've given them no reason not to.
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Republicans pay lip service to a bunch of stuff. In fact, all they do is pay lip service. That's all. That's why Trump won.
So basically, the Republican Party has done nothing for you. You vote for them based on what they SAY they'll do...that's it.
So really...you're in no position to play the inquisitor to black folks.
What you say may be correct, but it seems the same is true of black voters and Democrats. For the life of me, I can't see what Dems have done for blacks since the passage of the Civil Rights Act.
But since republicans practice supply side economics and say its the rich and large corporations that create all the jobs (republicans will naturally block small business tax cuts and lending aid.)
They did so because Democrats wouldn't allow votes on Republican Amendments.
My opinion. Neither party is all that great towards Blacks. However, this is what I see. Both parties have their hands in the illegal immigration issue. Both parties are soft.
Historically, Blacks have often been last preferred, and first fired. Part of me thinks that even if illegal immigration was deterred, there would be a preference of immigrants over Blacks. Years ago I heard someone on this forum mention he/she would rather hire Mexicans over Blacks because "Blacks were too much trouble".
The way I see it, Blacks are basically put last by BOTH parties. What next?
So your answer is basically that, yeah, Dems treat blacks badly too but in your opinion Dems are better for blacks than Repubs.
Can't say I agree but it's an honest answer and that really all I was looking for.
The democrats also put forth a "bill that would create a $30 billion government fund to help community banks increase lending to small businesses" (and the republicans blocked the bill.) Republicans Block Small Business Lending Bill - CBS News
And its the same with tax cuts for regular Americans. The democrats put forth a bill that would extend all the Bush tax cuts for low income workers and the middle class (and the republicans blocked the bill because it did not extend the tax cuts for the richest 2% of Americans.) GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
Republicans practice supply side/trickle down economics, these are literally tax cuts for the very rich and large corporations.
Take GW Bush's tax cuts for example. These tax cuts gave the 20% of Americans making up the middle class 9% of the tax cuts, and then gave the richest 1% of Americans 51% of the tax cuts. Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis
Or Donald Trumps tax cuts that will raise middle class Americans after tax income by 1% and then raise the richest 1% of Americans after-tax income by 13%. Forbes Welcome
Did republicans block all the above bills because democrats would not allow votes on republican amendments, or did republicans block the laws because supply side economics states that the very rich and large corporations get the biggest tax cuts?
Note: There were no tax cuts for large corporations in the small business bills.
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