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Old 02-01-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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lmao..You had no answer to defend your obvious and glaring hypocrisy. Yep, it's a mental illness for sure. I think it's hilarious. Thanks for the never ending entertainment.
If that's what you gather from it, I certainly will not deprive you of your bliss....

 
Old 02-01-2017, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Do you get paid by the word?
I'll bet I'm not the only one who just skips past your epic posts.
 
Old 02-01-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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Do you get paid by the word?
I'll bet I'm not the only one who just skips past your epic posts.
are you always so petty ? .... why worry yourself with what does not concern you of which you have no concern for..... did that make you feel better just to make an un-relevant utterance?

Geez..... where the heck do you people come from?
 
Old 02-01-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Asia
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No.

The President's job is to lead and serve the American people.


Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 1.: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 1.: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 2.: He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties... shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States.

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 3.: He shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.
 
Old 02-01-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Well it worked for Obama. Liberals did not seem to mind at the time.

But the whiny righties sure did!

What goes around comes around, deal with it!
 
Old 02-01-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 1.: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 1.: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 2.: He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties... shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States.

Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 3.: He shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.
All that is great, its as it has been and should be, "be mindful of the point" "by and with the Advice and Consent" because it implies "communications" acknowledging, wisdom and pursuing agreement as well as acknowledging the responsibility of consent.


PRESIDENT: = ("an officer appointed or elected to preside over an organized body of persons.)

First what does it meant to "PRESIDE" : (to occupy the place of authority or control, as in an assembly or meeting; act as president or chairperson)

  • ADVICE = ("guidance or recommendations concerning prudent future action, typically given by someone regarded as knowledgeable or authoritative).
  • CONSENT = ("permission for something to happen or agreement to do something.")

This is relevant information people truly should understand.

As I've said, in the post "People are challenged by "the method" which is more dictatorial, than presidential, it is more a dictation, than an act of presiding.

He did not pursue Advice and Consent from the Departments, Divisions nor the Elected Congressional Memberships whom were elected by the people. No vetting via the legislative sector, and no vetting via the Judicial sector

Some people who may not like Trump, may not support his Candidacy or May not have supported his elections and may well not like some of his ideals as an individual, or even as a President.

Though, some may consider and be in like considerations of some factors, such as, Jobs are needed, Industry is needed, Immigration Reforms is Needed, and Crime Reduction is Needed, Inner Cities and Rural Community Growth and Development is Needed, as well as things he does not talk about, such a Senior Care, and Even the Geriatric's whom need care.

No one is opposed to those things, they are agreed upon by all... But... THE METHOD of how they are approached and from what frame of ideology are they being addressed and are they being engaged with a generalized communications with Cabinet and State, Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches. The answer to date is "NO", because he has not engaged them officially in such ways to achive functional communication, nor does he have a cabinet in place, for the even the simplicity of avoiding International tensions, he does not have Ambassadors in place. Thus I defer to the original title of this thread. "Another Insidious Act _ Trump's Obsession to Issue Executive Orders"

We must get back to as system or Order, in addressing and communication through the system. One thing is certain, all were aware and communicated engaged, before previous President Issued Executive Orders.. They may not all have agreed to it, or what it was for, but they were not blindsided by it being done without them being aware that it was coming and would be done. Another matter, is Congressional people are very shrewd, they will in these type of situations where a new comer does not know and talks crap as if he knows everything, and has a put down mentality toward all those whom he is unaware that he needs to rely upon. They will stand idle, and let him continue to make an ass of himself, and laugh while they watch him and his inner circle dance trying to clean up messing all over themselves. He continues to do it and they continue have their private laugh of retribution. He made them dislike him ever more than they already disliked him, Yes, I'm talking about his own Party associates, the Republican Political Congressional Members. They truly detest the hurtful damage he has done to our intelligence community. What is relevant is Trump has no idea of the types of people he is dealing with, these people are long terms skilled in being far more crafty than his city games of manipulations to build a building. If he is wise, he will learn quickly when to "shut up".. and simply pay attention and learn.

Trump may consider himself some egotistical Goliath, but any of these David's within his own Republican system can take him down in full demise through the processes and procedures of which he is unfamiliar with by allowing him to trip up himself. Eventually, the pubic will wear thin of the Kellyanne spins...

"President Trump", might want to go and truly learn what the Office of President is, and what is the Position and Role of a President Is. he will then quickly know, it is not a role for trying to become a clone of Putin over America...

Therefore, back to the top of this comment.....

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Old 02-01-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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Well it worked for Obama. Liberals did not seem to mind at the time.
You got that, too?

A LOT of Repubs were ready to impeach Obama over garbage like the Dream Act, ObamaCare and so on.
 
Old 02-01-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Asia
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"President Trump", might want to go and truly learn what the Office of President is, and what is the Position and Role of a President Is. he will then quickly know, it is not a role for trying to become a clone of Putin over America...
You are mad.
 
Old 02-01-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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You are mad.

I shall repeat since you seem to have missed the point of the posted comment.

Quote:

PRESIDENT: = ("an officer appointed or elected to preside over an organized body of persons.)

First what does it meant to "PRESIDE" : (to occupy the place of authority or control, as in an assembly or meeting; act as president or chairperson)

ADVICE = ("guidance or recommendations concerning prudent future action, typically given by someone regarded as knowledgeable or authoritative).
CONSENT = ("permission for something to happen or agreement to do something.")

This is relevant information people truly should understand.
If you understood that, then you'd also have understood that "He did not pursue Advice and Consent from the Departments, Divisions nor the Elected Congressional Memberships whom were elected by the people. No vetting via the legislative sector, and no vetting via the Judicial sector", he has no cabinet in place for the Executive sector.

You might want to ask yourself, why are you so madly obsessively driven to accept such omissions to give respect unto such protocols !!!!

Maybe you did not fully understand what you simply copied and pasted without detailed thought analysis of what it actually means.

In case you don't know, "The Constitution" was designed with full awareness as well as intent for it to be "interpreted".... that is what as known as being a "living document"

some people, should be careful before they keep referring to a document, they barely understand what it says. The men who created it were not playing a joke, they were very serious in what they crafted. You callously quoting it with a twisted agenda in doing so, without understanding what you quoted, is an insult to them and the document they painstakingly crafted.

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Old 02-01-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Trump is doing a fantastic job... A+++++
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