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Old 01-31-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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Even the Arab leaders are overlooking Trump's immigration actions and are willing to talk to him.

Despite travel ban, Arab leaders line up to talk to Trump

Even as Trump draws global scorn for halting immigration from seven Muslim countries, key Arab leaders in the Middle East whose countries weren’t included in the ban are mostly staying quiet. The reason: they see Trump as a crucial ally against Iran and the Islamic extremists who threaten their own regimes, according to diplomats and experts.


In other words, they know somebody has to put their foot down and be an adult with these radicals.

Then there's this...

“They are so relieved to have Obama gone, who they thought saw Iran as part of the solution and not the problem — and that in fact they were the problem,” Ross added.

Obama further alienated those leaders by chiding their progress on human rights, democracy and economic reform. Trump has shown no interest in shaping the internal affairs of U.S. allies, and Arab officials expect the American “lectures,” as they sometimes call them, to be a thing of the past.


I thought Obama made us look good. I thought the world loved Obama... not so much.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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it's sociology. Arab leaders respect other strong leaders and obama was NOT a strong leader...
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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Wait just one minute.. does this mean that Trump is not going on a world apology tour and he won't be bowing to these Arab leaders?? Now that is refreshing.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Wait just one minute.. does this mean that Trump is not going on a world apology tour and he won't be bowing to these Arab leaders?? Now that is refreshing.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Iraq is Shiite.
ISIS is Sunni and is funded by the Muslim states (Saudi Arabia, gulf states...) that are NOT on Trump's ban list.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Wait just one minute.. does this mean that Trump is not going on a world apology tour and he won't be bowing to these Arab leaders?? Now that is refreshing.
This sound apologetic to you?

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Obama further alienated those leaders by chiding their progress on human rights, democracy and economic reform. Trump has shown no interest in shaping the internal affairs of U.S. allies, and Arab officials expect the American “lectures,” as they sometimes call them, to be a thing of the past.
Yes, gentlemen - your guy is seen as not giving a hoot on human rights and democracy, and the mullahs and princelings are very, very happy about that.

I thought you had a distaste for Muslim fundamentalism, btw.? I must be misremembering.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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it's sociology. Arab leaders respect other strong leaders and obama was NOT a strong leader...
It's called the Strong Horse in the Arab World - leaders (and people) like the Strong Horse.

Add to that - they don't allow people from those 7 Countries into their Country either.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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it's sociology. Arab leaders respect other strong leaders and obama was NOT a strong leader...
Not just the leaders. That's the culture. They see see limp-writed liberalism as a weakness to exploit.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Add to that - they don't allow people from those 7 Countries into their Country either.
False. Saudi Arabia has millions of guest workers from these 7 countries.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Even the Arab leaders are overlooking Trump's immigration actions and are willing to talk to him.

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HA HA, They are Trump's peer group , well in the sense that they have little regard for life , are openly racist, bigoted and sectarian.


OF Fcken course they are talking to him, they are fine with murder, rape, mutilation , serfdom etc. as long as you are from their tribe.
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