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Old 02-01-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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I never said I agreed with Labor Union spending. In fact I de-certed one back in 1989. You need to understand that unlimited spending that is able to hide is not a good thing for the people of our country.

I oppose money in politics, regardless of the source. It muddies the waters when holding politicians accountable for their actions. Not any happier with corporate influence than I was with the long standing influence of organized labor, which in many cases was not in line with the opinion of rank and file union members.

I think Gorsuch is a good pick, his record clearly identifies he is not an activist jurist. His comments last night were spot on regarding Congress making laws, and the Supreme Court interpreting the same. He was unanimously confirmed via voice vote to his current position on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit in 2006, so it will be a stretch for Senate Democrats to muster any new found opposition.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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I oppose money in politics, regardless of the source. It muddies the waters when holding politicians accountable for their actions. Not any happier with corporate influence than I was with the long standing influence of organized labor, which in many cases was not in line with the opinion of rank and file union members.

I think Gorsuch is a good pick,
Why do you conclude that Gorsuch is a good pick to get big money out of politics?
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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As far as I'm concerned and many people that voted for Trump, he can be the oligarchy all day and all night as long as he promotes a conservative agenda, which he is.
Serving the interests of crony capitalists and special interests is not an agenda that serves the average Joe Sixpack Trump voter. It just leads to ever increasing inequality and oligarchy and destruction of democracy.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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I do not believe we need another Justice Scalia. I find the idea of Corporations being considered to be people wrong and no where in the Constitution. I find the idea of Corporate dollars running rampart through out electoral system to be un-constitutional. I believe that one person is given one vote and we should know where large amounts of cash are going.

This next Scalia should not be approved.
He is nowhere near Scalia.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Another old white guy living in the 18th century, wonderful.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Why do you conclude that Gorsuch is a good pick to get big money out of politics?

He is a good pick, on the balance of his resume. Not necessarily to get money out of politics. He opposes judicial activism, which is one of the most important qualifications of a Supreme Court Justice.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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He is nowhere near Scalia.
You'll be able to judge that in about 10 years once he performs.

You can't do any better than his education and experience he currently holds.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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well, corporations are a group of people so why shouldn't they get similar rights? It's not like a corporation gets to vote.

tell me how that decision affects you personally.

It impacts ALL of us personally. See below.

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Because the idea that any billionaire can just hand over a billion dollars to the candidates of their choice, give those candidates a script and run a campaign on behalf of their financial overlord means that we have a bought and paid for political system. It works in the interests of the special interests and big money donors. Its impossible to win office without begging the super rich for money. Whats so great about that?

The OP is absolutely right. The legalized corruption in our system is horrible for democracy. Its the biggest issue of our time.

In South Dakota, the legislature a couple of days ago overturned the will of the people. The people passed by 52% of the vote, the anti-corruption act in a referendum. The legislature said we will ignore the voters and continue with our corruption. Its disgraceful.

He sure ain't the choice if we truly do want to get money out of politics. As Trump campaigned on.

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He was. And that is why he picks a corporate puppet as his SCOTUS. Because he benefits from it. He picked a Goldman Sachs fat cat as his finance chair during his campaign to beg for money and he got lots of money from fat cats and Goldman Sachs now has been rewarded with all the top positions in his cabinet. Its the most Goldman Sachs heavy cabinet ever. The casino on Wall Street is now being fully opened once again and you will bail them out. And they will laugh at you.

All the big money donors have been rewarded. His education secretary gave him 10 million. She is now rewarded. Same with the Congressional puppets that people voted in. They got their money from special interests and big money donors and are now serving them.

And his entire campaign was about how he was 'anti-establishment' and 'beholden to no one'. So many lies.


Lastly, why are we even having a hearing on this judge? This is not the Republican's seat to fill. It was Obama's. Not only THAT - but didn't Cruz vow to block any nominee that Hillary put forward should she have won?


Why should we be any different?


Let them 'go nuclear'. We can use that to our advantage at a later date.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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Just think Boss, if Dems had nominated someone who could have won the Presidency you would have gotten your Liberal Warrior on the SC.
But the SC nomination was a huge reason Trump won and Hillary lost.

Sorry, maybe next election. Right now we need someone exactly like Scalia.


Yes I agree. This judge is a good pick to bring balance to the SC.

If Obama had his way.....i can only imagine the destruction
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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Given the chaos that The Donald has created in his first couple of weeks as furor, it might have made sense to pick a centrist candidate.

Gorsuch is WAY out there on the right with regard to business, the environment, women's health care, abortion, religion and then there is the whole mess at Hobby Lobby.


He does favor term limits, restriction on executive orders, and control of executive branch overreach, but all in all he is still too conservative to be considered a centrist candidate which might heal the wounds opened up by The Donald since inauguration.


It is what it is....but it is not good overall for America when we need to come together, not create further divide. Not very well thought through if unification is the goal.
Nonsense, the outrage is from the far left and most of the media. Most Americans in every poll thus far shows a majority support for everything he's done so far including the travel ban. If libs were able to get out of their bubbles, they'ed know that.
There is no furor unless you're a far left winger and that's expected and no one cares except the far left, CNN, MSNBC and other liberals that are beside themselves that Trump is actually doing what he promised.
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