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Old 02-05-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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I'd have to tell them good luck getting it finished in two years. Everyone here seems pretty unanimous on this.
Hecks, yes. Considering no money can even be allocated until October and even one injunction is likely to stretch for two years.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I'd have to tell them good luck getting it finished in two years. Everyone here seems pretty unanimous on this.
no worries! Didn't you hear, it's going to be an invisible fence
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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This is the only thing that I disagree with Trump about is building the wall. The people coming over the Mexican border should be our last worry. He should concentrate on the flow of people coming into the country from overseas. This is the real threat. The travel slowdown was a good step in that direction so there is time to revise the immigration process.

Yeah, those Mexicans, etc. coming over our border should be no worry to us. This link is just the tip of the iceberg to. Also the FBI Director has said that those from known terrorist countries are slipping right in along with those coming thru our southern border and disappearing into our country. Yeah, not to worry.


The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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And how much $$$ American taxpayers get hosed for.
A lot less than what taxpayers are paying for services for illegal aliens.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Orange County/Las Vegas
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Yeah, those Mexicans, etc. coming over our border should be no worry to us. This link is just the tip of the iceberg to. Also the FBI Director has said that those from known terrorist countries are slipping right in along with those coming thru our southern border and disappearing into our country. Yeah, not to worry.


The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)
That is true. If we tighten immigration they probably would try the Mexican border and also the Canadian border.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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General! - general please think!! this is not the army the corp of engineers or DOD that jumps out of planes to drop cement and brink to build an over night permanent wall-

here is a piece of what is El wall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Field_State_Park
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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I assume that they can tear down that fencing that now exists (Arizona, California, New Mexico), and replace it with a wall rather easily, if expensively.


I will note that I read an interesting article the other day about some of the pitfalls of building a 'wall' along much of the Texas border. I, and others, have spoken before of some of the problems (ranchers, mountains, river access, etc.). Yet this article noted that much of the Texas-Mexico border is not readily accessible by road (true: I have personally driven from El Paso down to McAllen, and for much of the travel you are far from the border, or from much of anything). The author (an engineer, if I recall) said that a 'wall' implies usage of bricks, stone or concrete.


He said that trucking in such would be prohibitively expensive. Indeed, he said that more than likely, the US Government would likely have to hire Mexican contractors to bring up such material from the Mexican side.


I would also imagine that we would also have to hire many Mexican workers to work on said wall, at least in Texas.
You are well aware that the wall won't run continuously between San Diego and Brownsville? Some terrain is impassable, so no fence needed there. There is already a perfectly good wall between San Diego and Brownsville. Why would it get torn down.

It seems to me that your whole premise of your post was to claim that it would be a continous wall. So...your post is moot.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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I assume that they can tear down that fencing that now exists (Arizona, California, New Mexico), and replace it with a wall rather easily, if expensively.


I will note that I read an interesting article the other day about some of the pitfalls of building a 'wall' along much of the Texas border. I, and others, have spoken before of some of the problems (ranchers, mountains, river access, etc.). Yet this article noted that much of the Texas-Mexico border is not readily accessible by road (true: I have personally driven from El Paso down to McAllen, and for much of the travel you are far from the border, or from much of anything). The author (an engineer, if I recall) said that a 'wall' implies usage of bricks, stone or concrete.


He said that trucking in such would be prohibitively expensive. Indeed, he said that more than likely, the US Government would likely have to hire Mexican contractors to bring up such material from the Mexican side.


I would also imagine that we would also have to hire many Mexican workers to work on said wall, at least in Texas
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Oh, the irony. The US government will hire cheap Mexican laborers and use Mexican construction materials to build a wall designed to keep its creators out. I can't wait to see the SNL skit about this
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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Lol hahahahaha 2 years ? I Work in construction good luck in that. Getting a permit can take weeks sometimes, than you have to worry about materials, tools, Water for the concrete and mortar. Than transportation and or housing for the workers. Feeding them, and even their families depending on how long it'll take, giving them access to electricity, running water, heat, ac especially an ac for when it's hot out. Medical personnel, security, don't forget your have to end up taking property away from ranchers and anyone else whose property you'd be infringing on. SO with all that 2 years? Hahahahahahaha that wall will still be going on long after trump and half his cabinet are impeached


Oh to add is he going to recind his hiring freeze? You'll need more border guards, not too mention the workers since it's a government job will be making prevailing wage.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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I have been thinking about this the same way you are. If I remember correctly both things, they have to go through congress for approval. Also that Trump can't impose a tariff if it's over so much. I could be very wrong though.
Congress approved the wall years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
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