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Old 02-07-2017, 09:09 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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No wall to the north - people walking across it. Both Ways.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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They come here for jobs.

It would be a lot cheaper for the government to start prosecuting employers who hire them...and Trump could start that tomorrow without any new Congressional actions.
Not all of them come here for jobs.

Best to prosecute the employers who hire them and regulate the border.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Not even close.
July 31, 2013, the last time figures were documented, there were as many as 18,000 “foreign-born” citizens in California state prisons of 133,000 incarcerated Elusive crime wave data shows frightening toll of illegal immigrant criminals | Fox News
Then the figures went down. It was higher years ago.

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And the crime rate by first generation immigrants is lower than native born citizens https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8e5c8278e5db

First generation immigrants is different from illegal aliens.
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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I've said many times before, no administration is actually going to "solve" the Mexican illegal immigrant problem because for Big Business it's not a problem at all, it's a goldmine.


All politicians are going to do is to spend taxpayer money on efforts they intend to be futile, and point fingers at the other party.


Trump will be no different, particularly because he hires such labor himself.

Where is your proof that Trump hired any illegals himself or that there were any that were working for him or that he had any knowledge of it?
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Not all of them come here for jobs.
right..they risk their lives getting here so they can take their kids to Disneyland
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Then the figures went down. It was higher years ago.
No, it's actually been fairly consistent.
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First generation immigrants is different from illegal aliens.
"The 2010 Census data reveals that incarceration rates among the young, less-educated Mexican, Salvadoran, and Guatemalan men who make up the bulk of the unauthorized population are significantly lower than the incarceration rate among native-born young men without a high-school diploma. In 2010, less-educated native-born men age 18-39 had an incarceration rate of 10.7 percent—more than triple the 2.8 percent rate among foreign-born Mexican men, and five times greater than the 1.7 percent rate among foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men." https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...-united-states
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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right..they risk their lives getting here so they can take their kids to Disneyland
Only the really stupid ones are risking their lives. Some of these people have been deported multiple times and are back up here the same day.

In many cases it's simply a trunk ride or walk across to the 8 freeway.
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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Only the really stupid ones are risking their lives. Some of these people have been deported multiple times and are back up here the same day. In many cases it's simply a trunk ride or walk across to the 8 freeway.
I think you understood the point I was making. Whether it is risking your life, or your freedom people do not illegally cross a border for trivial reasons
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Old 02-08-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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Where is your proof that Trump hired any illegals himself or that there were any that were working for him or that he had any knowledge of it?
Donald Trump and Undocumented Workers at Trump Tower | Time.com
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