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Old 01-28-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why do the so called liberals want people from the Middle East to be allowed in this country? People that believe gays should be killed. People that don't believe women should have rights. People from a completely different culture with no intention of changing. You would think the far right would want this crowd, not the liberals.

I know all Middle Eastern people don't think that way but many do.

Personally I don't care who comes here as long as they are properly vetted and are willing to assimilate.
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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Why do the so called liberals want people from the Middle East to be allowed in this country? People that believe gays should be killed. People that don't believe women should have rights. People from a completely different culture with no intention of changing. You would think the far right would want this crowd, not the liberals.

I know all Middle Eastern people don't think that way but many do.

Personally I don't care who comes here as long as they are properly vetted and are willing to assimilate.
Because eventually, 80% to 90% of them and their many children will vote for the democratic party. Same thing with illegal aliens. It's one way to change demographics quickly in favor of Democrats. California didn't become as liberal as it is by having liberals move there from all over the country.
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Because they are largely poor. Because they do not assimilate, they stay poor and form a perfect underclass that require welfare benefits and feel perpetually discriminated against. This is why Podesta called them "never-do-wells" along with blacks.


Asians and Hispanics are now very upwardly mobile, with Hispanics surpassing whites in one key education metric of overall college attendence (although whites still graduate more). Also, there are less of them to come here since the Hispanic population boom is over.

So the libdems need new poverty to import and new victims to mint.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCMHdECoWXA

38. Racist remarks about Blacks and Muslims



https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1637
  • “...(Muslims, blacks** and Roma***, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances.”
  • “...the professional never-do-wells.”

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Old 01-28-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You shouldn't group all Muslims in one category. There are already millions of Muslims living in the US and they work as doctors, lawyers, and other professionals.

When people in other countries watch American TV shows, they assume everyone drives BMWs and lives in a house in the Hollywood Hills. Is that a fair generalization of the majority of Americans?
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You shouldn't group all Muslims in one category. There are already millions of Muslims living in the US and they work as doctors, lawyers, and other professionals.

When people in other countries watch American TV shows, they assume everyone drives BMWs and lives in a house in the Hollywood Hills. Is that a fair generalization of the majority of Americans?
I did not group them together. I do however read the same polls that most people read.
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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You shouldn't group all Muslims in one category. There are already millions of Muslims living in the US and they work as doctors, lawyers, and other professionals.

When people in other countries watch American TV shows, they assume everyone drives BMWs and lives in a house in the Hollywood Hills. Is that a fair generalization of the majority of Americans?
+1

Most Trump supporters in rural areas have never even seen a Muslim, let alone met one. What fearmongoring Fox News doesn't tell these people is that American Muslims are highly educated and are very successful. In an ironic twist, Muslim Americans are better educated than American Christians.
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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As mentioned, for votes is the main reason. Democrats gain votes by changing demographics. Republicans gain votes by changing people's minds, from seeking cold hard answers. Answers that stand the test of time from civilization to civilization, leading to stability, national pride, and prosperity rather than the slippery slope of socialism, endless internal conflict, and collapse.
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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This is why the Electoral College is so important. None of those refugees and their children will be able to affect the next election or 2 assuming there is no migrant of these people to less populated states.

Even if CA, NY absorbs 2-10mil more people their Electoral Votes don't change which is why many Red states have Voter ID checks to ensure that illegals cannot go there and effect votes in smaller states.

Is it fair? Not fair but brilliant on the part of the founding fathers who might have thought out this or other parallels.
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Old 01-28-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Most Trump supporters in rural areas have never even seen a Muslim, let alone met one. What fearmongoring Fox News doesn't tell these people is that American Muslims are highly educated and are very successful. In an ironic twist, Muslim Americans are better educated than American Christians.
You did not answer the point of this thread.

A group of people where many do not believe in gay rights or women's rights. It has nothing to do with education, Fox News, rural America and success.

Pew polls and others show their beliefs and the percentages that feel that way.
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Asia
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You shouldn't group all Muslims in one category. There are already millions of Muslims living in the US and they work as doctors, lawyers, and other professionals.
Yes, but, let's think about this for a minute.

The vast majority of the Muslims who have made it to the US are professionals and already more liberal than the vast majority of Muslims who have not made it to our shores. Unlike Europe, the US is separated from the Muslim world by two large oceans.

Look at the Muslims who have gone to Europe. They have not assimilated (and I know that Europe perhaps is partly to blame for this) and many have no desire or intent to assimilate.

The vast majority of Muslims living in the Muslim world (and in Europe) have a backward medieval mindset and offer NOTHING to the betterment of the US.

Moreover, as if it were not idiotic enough wanting to import these backward people to the US, there are some in the Muslim population who are jihadists and who want to harm the US.

It is gobsmackingly mind-boggling that anyone would want to import these Muslims.

Sorry, libs. Not wanting to admit these people does not make me a racist. I don't want to live in the Muslim world and I doubt than any of you libs would want to, either. So, why should any of us want to bring the Muslim world to the US?
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