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About the fish anti-biotics. They do work, they are sold as fish-mox (500mg amoxicillin) and fish-pen (penicillin). Until recently, you could get the over the counter at Walmart, about $12.99 for 100 capsules. They were the EXACT same thing you would get with a prescription. I was skeptical, until reading that groups like the Pacific coast trail club recommended you carry them on long distance hikes if you got I'll and were days away from reaching medical attention.
Who said I didn't get sick? I had no insurance at one point in my life when I shattered my ankle and had to undergo two surgeries. I paid for all of it. Growing up, my brother had a staph infection in his arm, starting when he was 3 years old. He was hospitalized multiple times and my parents didn't have health insurance, but my brother was never denied medical help and my parents never declared bankruptcy because they arranged payment plans and we all lived on a budget that excluded things like vacations or dining out or cable TV, etc., until the medical bills got paid. That's how you handle life.
Well good for you. A long time ago the price of medical care was somewhat reasonable. I too remember my parents paid out of pocket for almost all of our healthcare needs. Back then it was doable and it didn't require us to forego dining out, vacations, etc. But to equate those times with today is simply unrealistic.
You know as well as I that there are very very few people who could pay out of pocket for extensive medical care these days. To believe otherwise is a complete detachment from reality. So, what was the answer? Why, medical insurance of course. And for a long time it was affordable since the price of healthcare was still at reasonable levels.
But as healthcare costs rose so did the price of insurance. So much so that now even that is becoming unaffordable. Insurance companies were in the business of denying the very people who needed them the most; those with pre-existing conditions and the elderly. They were unable to even buy a policy.
Now we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the world in terms of delivery. It's a complete mess, even with the ACA. But now that people have had a taste of what it's like to get coverage without the fear of being turned down due to pre-existing conditions, they don't want to give that up and they shouldn't have to. The health and well-being of each citizen is a responsibility of ours as a nation. More so than your bridges.
Read the thread. Sheesh. Replies like this makes me understand why we get the politicians that we do.
I have read the thread, extensively. The usual response from the right is to let charity take care of it. They say that because they'd rather not deal with it and sweep it under the rug.
How did it not? I don't recall any great epidemic. We have health departments, free clinics, medicaid, various state medical programs for low income, etc. Those who chose not to purchase health insurance worked it out by negotiating and making payments.
How did it not? I don't recall any great epidemic. We have health departments, free clinics, medicaid, various state medical programs for low income, etc. Those who chose not to purchase health insurance worked it out by negotiating and making payments.
How is someone making barely above minimum wage going handle payments on a $500,000 bill? Or several bills of that magnitude if they're seriously ill? I'll tell you how they do it now; they stick you and me with the bill in the long run. Wouldn't it be better if we all paid into a system that would be available to all? I do and I'm not the only one who feels that way.
I have read the thread, extensively. The usual response from the right is to let charity take care of it. They say that because they'd rather not deal with it and sweep it under the rug.
Who gives a crap about your ignorant conclusions. I was arguing the exact opposite of what you jumped me for and my statement you replied to had nothing to do with that.
If you would have actually read the thread you would have simply apologized.
How did it not? I don't recall any great epidemic. We have health departments, free clinics, medicaid, various state medical programs for low income, etc. Those who chose not to purchase health insurance worked it out by negotiating and making payments.
So when it was said that whatever it was, 40 million people had no insurance, that wasn't a problem?
Those who could not afford insurance either went sick or went to ER's where others paid for them.
How is someone making barely above minimum wage going handle payments on a $500,000 bill? Or several bills of that magnitude if they're seriously ill? I'll tell you how they do it now; they stick you and me with the bill in the long run. Wouldn't it be better if we all paid into a system that would be available to all? I do and I'm not the only one who feels that way.
There were already programs for low income to assist with high medical bills that everyone pays into. I don't know a lot of people with half a million dollar medical bills.
I do know with much of the free medical programs the poor can generate excessive medical bills. One can have expensive medical procedures done for free and go to the Dr. for every sniffle, for free.
Bravo Mr. President!
Yet anther promised fulfilled!
EO's don't fulfill promises.
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