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So when it was said that whatever it was, 40 million people had no insurance, that wasn't a problem?
Those who could not afford insurance either went sick or went to ER's where others paid for them.
Basics for Healthcare.
Control cost of service.
fair price for drugs
bidding across state lines (Like Care Insurance)
Tort reform A concerted effort to reduce mal practice issues.
(There is always a risk to at treatment)
Tax rebates for employers who provide ins.
All a good start!
So when it was said that whatever it was, 40 million people had no insurance, that wasn't a problem?
Those who could not afford insurance either went sick or went to ER's where others paid for them.
Why did they have no insurance? Employer didn't offer, couldn't afford, didn't qualify for the various other government assisted medical, didn't want it?
So was it an epidemic, where was the big problem? I recall reading where several major hospitals had to shut down due to illegals swamping the ERs, never to be found again for billing? But otherwise I was unaware citizens being uninsured was a problem, perhaps I missed it and you can provide some information.
And yet People still go to the ER where others pay for it and now we are paying more for it on top of that.
Here's a story on how messed up the system is now. When my gkids were left with me they had TNcare. One got pretty sick for 3 days so I finally called around to get him to a clinic. I called three clinics and my doctors office and none accepted his TNcare. I explained the situation and said I would pay for the visit but was told they could not make an appointment or treat him because me paying the bill out of pocket was considered fraud. I had to go to the ER so a 65 dollar office visit cost the taxpayers 600$.
Control cost of service.
fair price for drugs
bidding across state lines (Like Care Insurance)
Tort reform A concerted effort to reduce mal practice issues.
(There is always a risk to at treatment)
Tax rebates for employers who provide ins.
All a good start!
exactly. Tackle the problem where the problem starts.
How did it work all those years prior to mandatory membership?
You do realize many still have no health coverage. Its only mandatory payments, not membership, if you don't qualify for free coverage.
Well without penalties for people who refuse to enroll in health care how does any system function or are we just going back to pre-ACA. They said they wanted to keep the requirement for preexisting conditions, who's going to pay for that. How will they continue to fund all those old and unhealthy people enrolled in the ACA without mandatory insurance or fines.
Yes some do not have health coverage but the ACA covered many who did not previously have health insurance.
Well without penalties for people who refuse to enroll in health care how does any system function or are we just going back to pre-ACA. They said they wanted to keep the requirement for preexisting conditions, who's going to pay for that. How will they continue to fund all those old and unhealthy people enrolled in the ACA without mandatory insurance or fines.
Yes some do not have health coverage but the ACA covered many who did not previously have health insurance.
How do the penalties help the system function. You have people who are still uninsured but now they pay a penalty. You also have people who do have private health insurance but its not approved so they are also paying penalties. You have people who joined and are paying high premiums for coverage they dont need or want. And you have people getting coverage that contribute nothing. How exactly does that system work. It doesnt.
Yes pre ACA. Please.
You can put in place a mandate or program to ensure those with pre-existing conditions receive affordable coverage without all the other BS.
All those old unhealthy people can receive medicare like before, low income, medicaid.
How do the penalties help the system function. You have people who are still uninsured but now they pay a penalty. You also have people who do have private health insurance but its not approved so they are also paying penalties. You have people who joined and are paying high premiums for coverage they dont need or want. And you have people getting coverage that contribute nothing. How exactly does that system work. It doesnt.
Yes pre ACA. Please.
You can put in place a mandate or program to ensure those with pre-existing conditions receive affordable coverage without all the other BS.
All those old unhealthy people can receive medicare like before, low income, medicaid.
And how do you propose to achieve that. Before ACA nothing preexisting was covered on the individual market.
The penalties did not quite work because they did not ramp them quickly enough. So , in a way many people decided to go uninsured and pay the relatively minor penalty. The "unapproved" insurance typically does not cover anything so I'm all for it to stay unapproved. And , the only way to keep the system solvent is for healthy people who "don't need or want coverage" to pay into the system. Otherwise, most will wait to get sick and seek treatment then.
Control cost of service.
fair price for drugs
bidding across state lines (Like Care Insurance)
Tort reform A concerted effort to reduce mal practice issues.
(There is always a risk to at treatment)
Tax rebates for employers who provide ins.
All a good start!
I'm all for cost control but you need government for that (you know, like in alll other countries). Are you ok with that?
Btw, the tort reform was passed ages ago in Texas, didn't do anything in terms of cost control.
Well without penalties for people who refuse to enroll in health care how does any system function or are we just going back to pre-ACA. They said they wanted to keep the requirement for preexisting conditions, who's going to pay for that. How will they continue to fund all those old and unhealthy people enrolled in the ACA without mandatory insurance or fines.
Yes some do not have health coverage but the ACA covered many who did not previously have health insurance.
I think there is a penalty for people with company healthcare plan. I never understood why? But our salaries are adjusted little bit as soon as Obamacare went into a law. Any reason why?
And how do you propose to achieve that. Before ACA nothing preexisting was covered on the individual market.
If an administration can implement ACA, they can implement pre-existing coverage.
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The penalties did not quite work because they did not ramp them quickly enough. So , in a way many people decided to go uninsured and pay the relatively minor penalty. The "unapproved" insurance typically does not cover anything so I'm all for it to stay unapproved. And , the only way to keep the system solvent is for healthy people who "don't need or want coverage" to pay into the system. Otherwise, most will wait to get sick and seek treatment then.
Yes the unapproved insurance does. Why must everyone have the same coverage? I'm well beyond childbearing, why do I need maternity and birth control coverage. What if I just need catastrophic insurance coverage? A co-worker and her husband have private family health coverage tailored to fit their needs but for whatever it is not approved by OBC so they not only pay monthly premiums but about $1,000 fine yearly. How is it you or anyone else can make a decision on what someone else insurance covers or what is right for them.
Why do we need a system and why should healthy people who don't need or want coverage they offered pay into the system to cover other peoples health care for free? We already had programs to assist the poor with health coverage.
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