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View Poll Results: How much trump BS is acceptable?
0-20% 46 68.66%
21%-40% 1 1.49%
41%-60% 1 1.49%
61%-80% 0 0%
81%-100% 19 28.36%
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Trump lies in the face of truth. Lies even when it makes no difference. Lies when the truth would actually work out better.

The man is clearly delusional.

 
Old 02-19-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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It's unanswerable for me because not all BS is equal.

He repeatedly brags about his landslide victory. Well, that's not what happened. He won, sure, but not in a landslide. His electoral win, from what I can tell, was a fairly typical win. Not overwhelming but not super close either. Average. His lying about it, while hilariously pathetic, is fairly unproblematic for me.

However, in contrast, his saying the media is the enemy is unsettling. Where he and I agree is that the media is not doing it's job. But that's very different from saying things like "all negative reports are fake news." This is the tactic of totalitarianism. If that doesn't bother you... it's because you're an idiot. It's like my argument against censorship. It seems fine when what's censored confirms your bias but once you go down that path, you can't control when they go after you next.

It's, for me, not an issue of percentage of quantity of BS. If 90% of what he said was the same BS level of "I won in a landslide" I'd get over it. But if only 5% is this "anyone who disagrees is the enemy" I think he should be removed from office. Quality over quantity if you will.
 
Old 02-19-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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wel, as a long tim Precedent Trump suportur I say if he can keep it to betwen haf and 50 %, Id say thats gud enuff
 
Old 02-19-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Right wingers are very compliant followers, as proven by cognitive science.
A leftist calling right wing voters "compliant followers". Thanks for the Sunday laugh!
 
Old 02-19-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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So far, the answer is no amount of lying and bullshlt is too much for the Trump worshippers to gobble up. The Sweden attack thread is Exhibit A to this effect.
Well that is what he gets when most of his fans are comprised of reality TV show viewers and birthers.
 
Old 02-19-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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At this point, we have to assume that most of what he says is not true. Past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior, so we have to also assume that anything he says tomorrow will also be untrue. What's unclear is whether he really believes his lies or if he's thinking he's pulling the wool over the eyes of the American people. He is either really stupid and fails to pay attention or he's moderately stupid and thinks he's smarter than everyone else and no one will fact check the lies he tells.
 
Old 02-19-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Caution!

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A leftist calling right wing voters "compliant followers". Thanks for the Sunday laugh!

This will require a little reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-...thoritarianism

And it's science, so feel free to ignore it.

 
Old 02-19-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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At this point, we have to assume that most of what he says is not true. Past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior, so we have to also assume that anything he says tomorrow will also be untrue. What's unclear is whether he really believes his lies or if he's thinking he's pulling the wool over the eyes of the American people. He is either really stupid and fails to pay attention or he's moderately stupid and thinks he's smarter than everyone else and no one will fact check the lies he tells.
He acts like if he says it, it is so.

Much like a 3 or 4 year-old will tell you what they wish or believe to be true, fully expecting you to believe it as well.
 
Old 02-19-2017, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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This is like asking the question- "How much cancer would you be okay with?"
 
Old 02-19-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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This is like asking the question- "How much cancer would you be okay with?"
Since I can keep my doctor and see a $2500 reduction in health insurance costs, I guess a little.
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