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Old 02-21-2017, 12:14 AM
 
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Why is there an income gap if the left is "supposed" to be better educated than the right?

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The median household income of a Trump voter so far in the primaries is about $72,000, based on estimates derived from exit polls and Census Bureau data. It’s also much higher than the median income for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supporters.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...class-support/
There's a lot of interesting data at the link.

"Supposedly" better educated but earn less? That seems to be making a statement as to the societal and marketable value of that "education."

 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:35 AM
 
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Why is there an income gap if the left is "supposed" to be better educated than the right?

From earlier in the thread:


There's a lot of interesting data at the link.

"Supposedly" better educated but earn less? That seems to be making a statement as to the societal and marketable value of that "education."
This is interesting but it's not exactly what the OP was saying. You're phrasing it wrong. It's not that the majority of democrats are better educated, it's better educated people are majority democrats. That is a very different statement.
The median income is exactly what it means. It is not a shock to say that very poor people are more likely to vote democrat. To really prove/disprove your theory is to compare apples to apples. What is the median income of each level of education and what is their party. You may be right, maybe not. I do know that traditionally, republicans are thought to be in a more stable income range but I'm not sure if that's still true.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:50 AM
 
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This is interesting but it's not exactly what the OP was saying. You're phrasing it wrong. It's not that the majority of democrats are better educated, it's better educated people are majority democrats. That is a very different statement.
The median income is exactly what it means. It is not a shock to say that very poor people are more likely to vote democrat. To really prove/disprove your theory is to compare apples to apples. What is the median income of each level of education and what is their party. You may be right, maybe not. I do know that traditionally, republicans are thought to be in a more stable income range but I'm not sure if that's still true.
OK, fine. Let's look at mostly college educated voters. This was done for 2012:
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Same issue. Same income gap.

It seems low-paid liberal arts grads consider themselves "highly educated," but can't get jobs and are largely under-employed.

More on that, here:

Millennials: Young, Supposedly Educated, Jobless - Newsweek
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:05 AM
 
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Why is there an income gap if the left is "supposed" to be better educated than the right?

From earlier in the thread:


There's a lot of interesting data at the link.

"Supposedly" better educated but earn less? That seems to be making a statement as to the societal and marketable value of that "education."
It is education as well. In his exit poll data, Silver found that 44% of Trump voters have college undergraduate degrees, compared to 29% of US adults Its the suburbs and the white professional class.

These are liberal web sites

Trump voters earn more and are better educated than the typical American.

https://qz.com/679589/trump-voters-e...ical-american/

Blame Trump’s Victory on College-Educated Whites, Not the Working Class
Reporters seeking to understand his voters should head to the suburbs


https://newrepublic.com/article/1387...-working-class

Race is really the main stat for republicans,trump won college educated white males by a huge margin, so did romney.

Romney won college educated whites by a huge margin, Obama lost the white college vote to Romney by 14 points (56% vs. 42%)

This is the false narrative from the media, you never heard that much about the demographics of non college educated / low income voters for Obama like you do for Trump from the media.

Obama was very lucky to have two really terrible candidates and following W. Bush, I voted for Obama over McCain and would do the same even today, McCain seems to me itching for a war with Russia or anyone.

Its all race with voting patterns and has been since Reagan, whites in every demographic from education to income have been deserting the Democrat party in droves since Carter, Trump even won the white millennial vote. The media likes to portray the trump voter in a certain fashion to get away from the reality of racial polarization in the electorate.

I saw tons of frat guys/ sorority girls , young people and middle/ upper middle class people at the two trump rallies I attended

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Old 02-21-2017, 01:09 AM
 
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OK, fine. Let's look at mostly college educated voters. This was done for 2012:

Same issue. Same income gap.

It seems low-paid liberal arts grads consider themselves "highly educated," but can't get jobs and are largely under-employed.

More on that, here:

Millennials: Young, Supposedly Educated, Jobless - Newsweek
This says "predominantly" college educated but ok. Another false assumption is that education = income. Being educated is being educated. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to make money. I'm sure that most tradesmen earn more than most teachers. The teacher is still educated and the tradesmen are skilled in the trade.
I still think that you will find a better stability in republican wages. Very few people who earn 10k are voting republican.
Fascinating data. I can see it, though. Republicans are usually rich or middle class business people. It's only been recent that religious people have been so vocal.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:16 AM
 
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This says "predominantly" college educated but ok. Another false assumption is that education = income. Being educated is being educated. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to make money.
How "educated" is one if society doesn't value one's "knowledge" and skills?
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:40 AM
 
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How "educated" is one if society doesn't value one's "knowledge" and skills?
I think there is a huge point being missed in that frequently all educated means is indoctrinated.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:45 AM
 
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Are we still having this discussion?

The fact that liberals are disparaging people because of their lack of a formal education, is disgraceful. And they are conveniently looking only at education among whites, instead of looking at the education of all groups.


More than 90% of blacks supported Hillary Clinton, is that because of education? Obviously not.


What they are trying to say, is that only stupid people vote for Donald Trump. But then, why did minorities overwhelmingly vote for Hillary Clinton?


This entire discussion is literally retarded. The truth is, people vote their interests, regardless of education. Period.


If you think otherwise, you're a moron.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:50 AM
 
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I think there is a huge point being missed in that frequently all educated means is indoctrinated.
In many cases, yes. And it's interesting to note that such indoctrination is soundly rejected by society. Otherwise, the "most educated" would be earning the most income... They're not.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 03:35 AM
 
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Are we still having this discussion?

The fact that liberals are disparaging people because of their lack of a formal education, is disgraceful. And they are conveniently looking only at education among whites, instead of looking at the education of all groups.


More than 90% of blacks supported Hillary Clinton, is that because of education? Obviously not.


What they are trying to say, is that only stupid people vote for Donald Trump. But then, why did minorities overwhelmingly vote for Hillary Clinton?


This entire discussion is literally retarded. The truth is, people vote their interests, regardless of education. Period.


If you think otherwise, you're a moron.




In other words, there are a lot of educated people who are really stupid.
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