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Old 02-21-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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What major biological change happened to you between the day before your delivery and the day of your delivery?

Are preemies not humans until they get to the magical day they should have been born?

Of course, I think it's weird that you feel a government decides who is a human.

We saw how well that worked out for slaves in the US and Jews in Germany.
You feel that it's a governments decision about what a woman has to do with her body. Big, obtrusive government.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:01 PM
 
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You feel that it's a governments decision about what a woman has to do with her body. Big, obtrusive government.
Nope. A woman has the right to sell her body, ingest whatever she chooses, get a tattoo that says "F the president", commit suicide or even sell her own body parts.

She doesn't have the right to kill her children for an unjust reason, even if that child is a week from delivery.

Your rights only go as far as when they step on the rights of others. So, just as a woman can't walk into the NICU and strangle her preemie because it is a human with rights, neither should she be able to kill the identically same, biologically speaking, baby inside her womb.

There is a point between conception and delivery where that blob of cells becomes a person.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Nope. A woman has the right to sell her body, ingest whatever she chooses, get a tattoo that says "F the president", commit suicide or even sell her own body parts.

She doesn't have the right to kill her children for an unjust reason, even if that child is a week from delivery.

Your rights only go as far as when they step on the rights of others. So, just as a woman can't walk into the NICU and strangle her preemie because it is a human with rights, neither should she be able to kill the identically same, biologically speaking, baby inside her womb.

There is a point between conception and delivery where that blob of cells becomes a person.
It's called the third trimester
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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It's called the third trimester
So, do you feel their should be restrictions on third trimester abortions?

I feel their should be no restrictions on first trimester abortions.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Nope. A woman has the right to sell her body, ingest whatever she chooses, get a tattoo that says "F the president", commit suicide or even sell her own body parts.

She doesn't have the right to kill her children for an unjust reason, even if that child is a week from delivery.

Your rights only go as far as when they step on the rights of others. So, just as a woman can't walk into the NICU and strangle her preemie because it is a human with rights, neither should she be able to kill the identically same, biologically speaking, baby inside her womb.

There is a point between conception and delivery where that blob of cells becomes a person.
Have any stats on how many abortions are done at 39 weeks?
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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So, do you feel their should be major restrictions on third trimester abortions?

I feel their should be no restrictions on first trimester abortions.

How many third trimester abortions are done and why are they done?


Do you even know?
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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Have any stats on how many abortions are done at 39 weeks?
Irrelevant.

I'm sure it's exceptionally rare for a person to be murdered by being thrown into an industrial shredder, but it should still be illegal.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So, do you feel their should be restrictions on third trimester abortions?

I feel their should be no restrictions on first trimester abortions.
I feel no restrictions whatsoever on first or second trimester. Third trimester, restricted to life of the mother
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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How many third trimester abortions are done and why are they done?


Do you even know?
I have no idea.

Do you think there should be no restrictions on third trimester abortions?
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:34 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I vote that the mother has the right to abort if it is first or second trimester no matter what. The fetus can't live without her while in the womb or out.
Would you also agree that fetal homicide laws should be null and void? 38 states have fetal homicide laws.
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