Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The economy of JUST California is much larger and more dynamic than that of the entire country of Russia. Those fruits and nuts must be doing something right.
Add in the rest of the Pacific Northwest and even throw in (Dem) Nevada and maybe NM and even Arizona and we'll have a country number #4 or so in the world - without the bible belt funny stuff.
They can't take the federal land currently located within the state and right off the bat, the US Democrat Party in the US loses 55 electoral college votes in the US Presidential elections and most likely 2 US Senator seats. The RNC throws a party.
The new country of California will have no army and probably strict gun control so they can't defend themselves. Right after they secede, the US invades and easily wins.
The US takes ALL of the land of the former state and redistributes it to other states minus the military bases we, the US, would still need on the coast and the lovely national parks, national historic sites, national seashore, and a slew of National Wildlife Refuges we, the US, never lost in CALEXIT. Remember 46% of California is currently owned by the feds.
Everyone who lives there and went along with the secession gets no federal benefits and has to be treated like the conquered foreigners they now are. They can't vote. They'll have to apply for green cards if they want to work. If they are citizens of another country, we ship them home if they don't meet the prison criteria. The secession leaders can go to Gitmo (plenty of room now) or we can reopen Alcatraz as a prison just for them.
I say we give the area formerly known as Berkley, Hollywood and San Francisco to Utah.
Louis J. Marinelli, the 30-year-old English teacher who is the president of the Yes California movement, which seeks independence for the state, has decided to call it home.
...
And back in California, he is on the defensive for accepting travel expenses and office space from a Kremlin-linked nationalist group. That acceptance has raised the prospect that Russia, after meddling in the election to try to tip the vote to Mr. Trump, as United States intelligence agencies have said, is now gleefully stoking divisions in America by backing a radical liberal movement.
Well... the roots of secession lead to Russia. Imagine that.
The saying is true... you point the finger at someone else, you have three pointing back at you.
Check out this paragraph near the end of the article...
While no indications exist of a direct Russian government hand in Mr. Marinelli’s organization, a group that is nominally independent but nonetheless state financed, and supports only causes that dovetail with the Kremlin’s foreign policy, paid for a hotel room in Moscow during a congress of secessionist groups from around the world in September 2016. These included the Texas Nationalist Movement, backers of Puerto Rican independence and a group wanting to restore the Hawaiian monarchy. A Russian group, known as the Anti-Globalization Movement, which like Mr. Marinelli advocates the breakup of the United States, also offered him office space in Moscow to open an “embassy” of California in Russia, and Mr. Marinelli accepted.
We have all of these people hounding Trump's people for Russian connections. Is anyone looking at secession efforts as a tool of Russia for weakening the United States?
GOOD!!!
This being from Russia just means it should have Trump's full support if and when it passes!!!
So liberals are part of the Russian plot too. Since no one has free will anymore, whose controlling the Russians?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.