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Old 04-18-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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California could do all of us a favor by leaving America to join Mexico- that seems to be where their heart is!
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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The economy of JUST California is much larger and more dynamic than that of the entire country of Russia. Those fruits and nuts must be doing something right.

Add in the rest of the Pacific Northwest and even throw in (Dem) Nevada and maybe NM and even Arizona and we'll have a country number #4 or so in the world - without the bible belt funny stuff.
lmao...Who's gonna work? The illegals?
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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If Californians want to secede then they should be allowed to.
Californians don't want to secede. I live there, and I have to go to polemical sites like this one to see people arguing in favor.
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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It was celebratory to cheer on the breakup of the Soviet Union...
Yes. Yes it was.
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I still say let California secede. (Calexit)

They can't take the federal land currently located within the state and right off the bat, the US Democrat Party in the US loses 55 electoral college votes in the US Presidential elections and most likely 2 US Senator seats. The RNC throws a party.

The new country of California will have no army and probably strict gun control so they can't defend themselves. Right after they secede, the US invades and easily wins.

The US takes ALL of the land of the former state and redistributes it to other states minus the military bases we, the US, would still need on the coast and the lovely national parks, national historic sites, national seashore, and a slew of National Wildlife Refuges we, the US, never lost in CALEXIT. Remember 46% of California is currently owned by the feds.

Everyone who lives there and went along with the secession gets no federal benefits and has to be treated like the conquered foreigners they now are. They can't vote. They'll have to apply for green cards if they want to work. If they are citizens of another country, we ship them home if they don't meet the prison criteria. The secession leaders can go to Gitmo (plenty of room now) or we can reopen Alcatraz as a prison just for them.

I say we give the area formerly known as Berkley, Hollywood and San Francisco to Utah.

CalNoMore
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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California Secession Advocate Faces Scrutiny Over Where He’s Based: Russia

Louis J. Marinelli, the 30-year-old English teacher who is the president of the Yes California movement, which seeks independence for the state, has decided to call it home.

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And back in California, he is on the defensive for accepting travel expenses and office space from a Kremlin-linked nationalist group. That acceptance has raised the prospect that Russia, after meddling in the election to try to tip the vote to Mr. Trump, as United States intelligence agencies have said, is now gleefully stoking divisions in America by backing a radical liberal movement.


Well... the roots of secession lead to Russia. Imagine that.

The saying is true... you point the finger at someone else, you have three pointing back at you.

Check out this paragraph near the end of the article...

While no indications exist of a direct Russian government hand in Mr. Marinelli’s organization, a group that is nominally independent but nonetheless state financed, and supports only causes that dovetail with the Kremlin’s foreign policy, paid for a hotel room in Moscow during a congress of secessionist groups from around the world in September 2016. These included the Texas Nationalist Movement, backers of Puerto Rican independence and a group wanting to restore the Hawaiian monarchy. A Russian group, known as the Anti-Globalization Movement, which like Mr. Marinelli advocates the breakup of the United States, also offered him office space in Moscow to open an “embassy” of California in Russia, and Mr. Marinelli accepted.


We have all of these people hounding Trump's people for Russian connections. Is anyone looking at secession efforts as a tool of Russia for weakening the United States?


GOOD!!!

This being from Russia just means it should have Trump's full support if and when it passes!!!


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Old 04-18-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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GOOD!!!

This being from Russia just means it should have Trump's full support if and when it passes!!!


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Read post 24 for the update. The leader of the movement skipped out.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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The secession leaders can go to Gitmo (plenty of room now) or we can reopen Alcatraz as a prison just for them.


CalNoMore

Too bad we didn't do that to the secession leaders in your part of the country in 1865 instead of pardoning southern traitors.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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One less wacko in California
Maybe all of the other California Communist and Socialist will leave too
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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So liberals are part of the Russian plot too. Since no one has free will anymore, whose controlling the Russians?
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