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Old 03-04-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Removing Iraq from the list makes no sense at all. They are the biggest threat to us.

The whole ban was stupid anyways. Trump was blamed for using a list of countries that Obama made up. The ban was never a ban but more of a pause for 90 days while policy is put in place for better vetting etc..
What happened to that?

The Dems have shown us that language makes a difference such as how illegal alien has evolved to illegal immigrant to immigrant worker and if Hillary had won the election, unenrolled democrat voter.
Don't call it a BAN Donald call it a Pause..

When will the GOP learn?
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The reason for the ban was to pander to anti-Muslim sentiment.
Exactly this. Even though it only covers few percent of Musilm population, it is just pondering to his base and gloat about keeping his election promise. He should just continue doing extreme vetting and use his Homeland department to take care of it like Obama. I think, he is also going to issue EO to reduce number of visas for refugees.
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Removing Iraq from the list makes no sense at all. They are the biggest threat to us.

The whole ban was stupid anyways. Trump was blamed for using a list of countries that Obama made up. The ban was never a ban but more of a pause for 90 days while policy is put in place for better vetting etc..
What happened to that?

The Dems have shown us that language makes a difference such as how illegal alien has evolved to illegal immigrant to immigrant worker and if Hillary had won the election, unenrolled democrat voter.
Don't call it a BAN Donald call it a Pause..

When will the GOP learn?
Iraq was in question because of all the Iraqi translators who helped Americans during the war, I believe.
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Iraq was in question because of all the Iraqi translators who helped Americans during the war, I believe.
That's my understanding as well.

And of course it's the same reason why Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are also not on the list. Because the US needs their backdoor cooperation in order to continue the ME wars.
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Old 03-04-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Removing Iraq from the list makes no sense at all. They are the biggest threat to us.

The whole ban was stupid anyways. Trump was blamed for using a list of countries that Obama made up. The ban was never a ban but more of a pause for 90 days while policy is put in place for better vetting etc..
What happened to that?

The Dems have shown us that language makes a difference such as how illegal alien has evolved to illegal immigrant to immigrant worker and if Hillary had won the election, unenrolled democrat voter.
Don't call it a BAN Donald call it a Pause..

When will the GOP learn?
If he just strengthened the vetting requirements no one would have cared, the issue was the fact that he placed a ban particularly on refugees. He comes up with these terms such as "extreme vetting" and that appeals to his constituency but without some details it is meaningless. The idea shouldn't be to halt immigration it should add a level of security particularly on Visas, but banning refugees from Syria is nonsense.


Most of the terrorists were home grown or came by way of Europe and other countries, that is why this makes even less sense. Evidently he stall hasn't been able to come up with a reason for the immediate ban, he asked the DIA and Homeland to come up with an excuse after the fact.
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Old 03-04-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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It will not make us any safer whatsoever, and is nothing more than Donny Con throwing a bone to his rabid right wing sycophants, while doing nothing to solve the problem. The process we currently have in place is more than sufficient to fully vet people coming from the countries on his thinly disguised muslim ban list.


Another stupid move by a guy who doesn't have a clue.
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