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It's hypocrisy on both sides. Hedge funds, big banks, and or shops that rail against unions and collective bargaining also lineup to accept pension funds left and right...calsters, calpers, ny state, Texas, NYC public unions, cpp etc...
Where's the hypocrisy from the right?
We keep saying "Let the rich cats keep their earnings, and it will trickle down."
How do unions and collective bargaining advocates line up to eschew their pension benefits? I've not seen any of them do so. In fact, it's the exact opposite. They want the exact same profits the hedge funds and big banks are getting.
When unions and collective bargaining advocates put their money where their mouths are and eschew their invested share gains from Wall Street, bank, corporate, etc., profits, maybe they can be taken seriously. Until then, they are SUPREMELY idiotic hypocrites. And you KNOW it.
What are you even trying to argue here? I think you are so lost on your hatred of libs that you ceas d making sense? Are big banks and hedge funds lining up to argue for higher taxes and tighter regulation? Is that what you are saying makings unions hypocritical? And have skin on both sides so I actually have no dog in this fight, just calling it out for what it is here on both sides. And you might want to keep from projecting too much by calling people idiots.
It would be helpful that you provide a correct alternative analogy.
I do understand that rich people have more to lose in a society, but they also contribute far more than the poor. The poor benefit more from a society and contribute very little. What's the rationale for the rich to pay more taxes when they already pay more by the sheer amount?
We keep saying "Let the rich cats keep their earnings, and it will trickle down."
Do you not get the part about them accepting and pursuing pensions funds as investors while decrying unions and pensions and collective bargaining? Or is that beyond you?
It would be helpful that you provide a correct alternative analogy.
I do understand that rich people have more to lose in a society, but they also contribute far more than the poor. The poor benefit more from a society and contribute very little. What's the rationale for the rich to pay more taxes when they already pay more by the sheer amount?
I don't even see logic to what you're arguing.....you do realize even if with a flat tax rich would pay more.???
Wall Street went bankrupt and went crying like three year olds for the government to force the taxpayers to bail them out.
It's only a matter of time before this all stops.
When Wall Street goes bankrupt, what would happen to you?
1. Your 401K/IRA goes down to the drain
2. Banks are going out and you would get maximum of $250K of your saving.
3. You would be laid off as your employer can't get loans to make payroll and they go down to the drain too.
I'd agree in principle that a government bailout is immoral and crony capitalism but the particular bailout is a very complex issue, beyond my knowledge and the knowledge of the vast majority of Americans. Maybe you can enlighten us as why it was a bad thing.
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