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Remind me again why we need to have Big Govt running our health care AT ALL?
Would you be asking the same question if while lying on a guerney in a completely unregulated system, while waiting for the anesthesiologist, the surgeon appeared and demanded you sign over all your assets to him the operation wasn't happening?
I think a better question would be WHY do people apparently want a for profit system that directly affects their well being to go completely unregulated?
I don't get what's so difficult to understand? Only Americans are so dense to not realize why NOT have a single payer system? It makes sense for 65 year olds, but not for people younger than 64? What sense does that make?
Because the government puts people before profit. Actually, the government is non-profit so they don't even want a profit. Private companies put profit before people.
Yes a government that swiped $3.7 trillion dollars from the "people"in 2016 is putting the people first
Remind me again why we need to have Big Govt running our health care AT ALL?
This country has had no national health care plan for its entire existence, except for a brief period from 2010-2017... and that period was an unmitigated disaster.
Yet now we are exchanging one socialistic Big-Govt health plan, for another socialistic Big-Govt health plan???
Sorry, I just don't get it.
Liberals always try to get people addicted to Big Govt., so the liberals can justify their existence and force everyone else to comply. And who cares what actually happens to the people?
Have we now accepted the liberals' lifelong dream?
I certainly haven't. Have you?
Why on Earth do we need ANOTHER Big-Govt health plan???
As I pointed out, why do we need Big Govt running our health care at all?
Because the 50 years that we had private health insurance was a huge failure. People went uncovered or were discriminated against. People who got sick were dropped like a hot rock by the insurance company they paid premiums to for years. Costs have spiraled out of control. It wasn't and still isn't working. It needs to be centralized to deal with all these problems at once instead of piece-a-meal with patch work legislation that make some covered by the Feds some covered by the state. It is a mess of massive proportions and the source of this mess is private insurance.
Remind me again why we need to have Big Govt running our health care AT ALL?
This country has had no national health care plan for its entire existence, except for a brief period from 2010-2017... and that period was an unmitigated disaster.
Yet now we are exchanging one socialistic Big-Govt health plan, for another socialistic Big-Govt health plan???
Sorry, I just don't get it.
Liberals always try to get people addicted to Big Govt., so the liberals can justify their existence and force everyone else to comply. And who cares what actually happens to the people?
Have we now accepted the liberals' lifelong dream?
I certainly haven't. Have you?
Why on Earth do we need ANOTHER Big-Govt health plan???
Because health insurance and healthcare are for-profit industries. Because corporate greed and shareholder profits outweigh human health in the minds of the insurance industry. Because if you have pre-existing conditions (which in the insurance industry is basically anything related to life), they reject you and will not cover you at all. Then the emergency rooms become the doctors. Then hospitals charge $1,000 for an aspirin to recoup their losses. Those who are charged are are the ones who have insurance.
Look--health insurance through employment is an old program started post WWII using price controls. This no longer works. Health care costs and health insurance has been skyrocketing since the 80s. Our for-profit health care is not a 'free market' at all. There is no competition. Nobody covers old or sick people if they don't have to (including children with any issues at all, or most women over 50).
There are a million more reasons, but really--you can find most of this online.
Remind me again why we need to have Big Govt running our health care AT ALL?
This country has had no national health care plan for its entire existence, except for a brief period from 2010-2017... and that period was an unmitigated disaster.
Although no fan of Gov't intrusion, healthcare before and after ACA has been getting more and more expensive. If you never get sick you feel like you are getting screwed paying for something you don't need. If you never get sick for 60-years and then end up w/ Cancer and you had no insurance, well suddenly you are going go get a very large bill. You'll probably wish you had, had insurance.
One big problem with the ACA was it only worked on one side of the equation. It made everyone buy insurance, but really did nothing to make sure the parties on the other side kept things affordable (can you say EpiPen?!?). Can a quasi-capitalistic solution exist? Can companies be "reasonably" rewarded for innovation, but still keep those treatments affordable? What would that look like? Should salaries be capped at some level? Should tuition also be capped?
Remind me again why we need to have Big Govt running our health care AT ALL?
This country has had no national health care plan for its entire existence, except for a brief period from 2010-2017... and that period was an unmitigated disaster.
Yet now we are exchanging one socialistic Big-Govt health plan, for another socialistic Big-Govt health plan???
Sorry, I just don't get it.
Liberals always try to get people addicted to Big Govt., so the liberals can justify their existence and force everyone else to comply. And who cares what actually happens to the people?
Have we now accepted the liberals' lifelong dream?
I certainly haven't. Have you?
Why on Earth do we need ANOTHER Big-Govt health plan???
Because we're not f***ing savages. It's in the best interest of the country to have a population that's not dying in the streets from treatable sicknesses and injuries.
The real question, OP, is why is there a private health insurer standing between me and my healthcare provider, deciding what care I can receive, a decision which is based solely on the insurance company's profit margin? As it stands right now, an insurance executive's multi-million dollar salary takes precedence over everyone's healthcare needs. Why is that okay with you?
Private insurance needs to be removed from the picture. They are leeches who feed off people's sickness and bad luck for their own profit. They provide absolutely no benefit for anyone other than their greedy, over-paid executives. Let the money flow directly to hospitals and healthcare providers without these parasitic middle men taking a huge cut and providing nothing of value in return.
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