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Old 03-14-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have never been able to figure this one out.

Other then rewarding welfare recipients with multiple children, what is exactly does the poor and lower-middle class get for voting Democratic.

The health-care system is a mess in many blue states with $85 an hour nurses and huge amounts of undocumented immigrants. They are overwhelmed and even with insurance there is very access to care.

In red states, they have Medicaid also. There are many smaller Republican states that have better access to care for the poor and working class.

The poor and lower-middle class also are harmed by all the regulation. Just compared housing prices in Republican Wichita to Democratic San Francisco.

The liberals also have high taxes which are a burden poor and lower-middle class much more so then conservative, low tax states.

Another thing is the "blue state" liberals with $15 an hour minimum wages is a perfect storm for high unemployment rates instead of the reasonable minimum wage in very Republican states which allows employers flexability.

Never understood how liberals are supposedly the hero's of the working class and poor when they are terrible.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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Wow, I can't figure it out, either. But maybe it's because conservatives lied with the promise of low-cost health insurance and everybody would be paying a lot less for a lot more and everybody would be covered, or maybe because they lied and told poor miners that the mines would be reopening, or because they lied and told old steelworkers that the mills would be reopening, or that they lied and said that they would lower middle class taxes, or because they lied and said that Goldman Sachs was corrupt and now half the cabinet is from Goldman Sachs, or because the trump lied and told them he was going to build a "big, beautiful wall?" That's just off the top of my head.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Never understood how liberals are supposedly the hero's of the working class and poor when they are terrible.
They used to be but aren't anymore. The alternative is that the Republicans never were.

Politicians on both sides of the aisle ultimately serve their most important constituents, which across the country means the wealthy. In traditional Democratic enclaves where getting out the vote meant giving out benefits like housing and health care, the pressure from the masses is no longer there. Rather, whoever raises the most money for campaign cash is able to win most elections. Scott Brown tapped into the dissatisfied and down trodden of New Hampshire for his brief turn as our Republican representative in the Senate, but he turned out to be nothing more than a barn jacket driving an F150. Moreover, witness the massive rewards that are now possible for retired technocrats. Deval Patrick made a fantastic wage as a lawyer prior to being governor and now waltzes into Bain Capital to continue harvesting economic gains. Why would a politician do anything to bite the hand that feeds it?
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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I thought Democrats were giving poor people free health care housing and food. You say they're not doing anything for them. Which one is it?
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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I thought Democrats were giving poor people free health care housing and food. You say they're not doing anything for them. Which one is it?
yep, the Trumpers and some GOP folk, do this all the time. On one hand they claim the dems are devils and do nothing for the working poor. And on the other we are supposedly handing out money to anyone who asks...


The Trumpers are projecting, deep down they know they are bordering on fascism , they know they have racists embedded and woven through their ranks, so they try to weaken those words by using them on us.

it is weak sauce judo, trying to leverage their weaknesses into strength, but all it is really doing is exposing their inner minds. Showing just how intolerant and how selfish humans can be. Republicans are backing Trumpcare because they hope they will gain a few dollars a month out of it, they know it will kill many of their fellow Americans, they know it will bankrupt large numbers of middle class Americans too, but they don't care because they still think they are not part of the piles that will lose out.

selfishness is the underlying reason.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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I thought Democrats were giving poor people free health care housing and food. You say they're not doing anything for them. Which one is it?
Schroedinger's Democrats. Once you've decided what you're specifically railing against right now, it collapses the waveform. Until then, they exist in a superposition of all unpopular viewpoints at the same time.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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They used to be but aren't anymore. The alternative is that the Republicans never were.

Politicians on both sides of the aisle ultimately serve their most important constituents, which across the country means the wealthy. In traditional Democratic enclaves where getting out the vote meant giving out benefits like housing and health care, the pressure from the masses is no longer there. Rather, whoever raises the most money for campaign cash is able to win most elections. Scott Brown tapped into the dissatisfied and down trodden of New Hampshire for his brief turn as our Republican representative in the Senate, but he turned out to be nothing more than a barn jacket driving an F150. Moreover, witness the massive rewards that are now possible for retired technocrats. Deval Patrick made a fantastic wage as a lawyer prior to being governor and now waltzes into Bain Capital to continue harvesting economic gains. Why would a politician do anything to bite the hand that feeds it?
^^This.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The most hilarious part of OP's thread was comparing housing prices between Wichita and San Francisco 😂😂😂
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