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Old 03-24-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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Dems/0bama own it and always will, unless by some miracle, it gets done away with.


For the morons who are saying Trump now owns it, why are dim democrats so quick to give away something they've touted for 7 years as being better than sliced bread?


Today (yesterday, actually) was neither a win nor a loss for anybody. It's just a stagnant pool of turds. Nothing changes. It's still POS 0bamacare.
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:20 AM
 
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They always owned it, but now they will have to own its collapse. And good for Trump and the Republicans for not tryong to salvage it. It could not be made to work no matter how hard they tried. Health care costs will continue to rise.
Not trying to salvage it? Did you see the Bill they put out? It was 80% Obama Care.
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:23 AM
 
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Here is how. Dems themselves admit ACA needs fixing. It's falling apart. Now that there was an effort to fix it, they were nowhere to be found. What was their alternative legislation? There was none. So that's how they own it. If in the next 6 month, state after state is left with one insurer, it's on the Dems to answer for it.
How do you figure? For seven plus years GOP promised they would repeal. I don't see how the GOP benefits even if ACA ultimately ends up needing fixing. Why would the public trust the GOP to do the fixing? They had their chance and blew it.
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:32 AM
 
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For the morons who are saying Trump now owns it, why are dim democrats so quick to give away something they've touted for 7 years as being better than sliced bread?
They both own it in parts. Trump is trying to say it's ALL on the dems if it fails. We all know that is far from the truth since the republicans apparently thought it was worth keeping over what they brought to the table. The fact that the GOP could not get a competent plan together is not a scapegoat from blame.
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Old 03-25-2017, 04:29 AM
 
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Did they not own it before?

What type of spin is this?
After 7 years of whining and belly aching about Obamacare the repubs with full majority in the house had the chance to repeal the ACA, they failed, IMO its now the republicans who own the ACA.
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Old 03-25-2017, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Health care is on President Bonkers and the GOP, since yesterday.

After SEVEN years of GOP votes to REPEAL the ACA, and with a GOP in the WH, they FAILED to fix health care. And now they are walking away from it.

It's on them now. Lock stock and barrel.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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Democrats do own Obamacare now. 100%

Trump can say he tried to fix it. Democrats wouldn't help.

Obamacare collapses. People infuriated.

Democrats devastated in 2018 mid terms.

You guys are crowing about failure of Ryancare and don't realize that you had the rope-a-dope pulled on you.


(now you know why Trump was so quick to move on. he's playing chess, you guys are still playing checkers)
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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Trump can spin it any way he wants but he is in charge. If people die due to lack of health care it is on the Republicans. Their first order of business is not tax breaks for the rich but healthcare, jobs, economy.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Trump can spin it any way he wants but he is in charge. If people die due to lack of health care it is on the Republicans. Their first order of business is not tax breaks for the rich but healthcare, jobs, economy.
It's due to the failure of Obamacare. Who they end up blaming for that remains to be seen.

I'm betting they won't be voting for more Democrats to come in and fix it. Why? Democrats claim there is nothing wrong with Obamacare.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Democrats do own Obamacare now. 100%

Trump can say he tried to fix it. Democrats wouldn't help.

Obamacare collapses. People infuriated.

Democrats devastated in 2018 mid terms.

You guys are crowing about failure of Ryancare and don't realize that you had the rope-a-dope pulled on you.


(now you know why Trump was so quick to move on. he's playing chess, you guys are still playing checkers)
Or the Republicans can actually try to improve Obamacare and then take credit for it. I don't see how letting it stay and not improving it can help them for 2018 when many ran on repealing the law. They had 7 years to think of something better, yet came up with an act that increases pricing on seniors and the poor, while giving tax cuts to the rich, plus making 24 million people uninsured when they promised everyone would be covered.

They can probably try adding a few of the good things that Ryancare did have, such as letting people sign up at any time even when sick, also forcing people to continue paying the monthly premium. Because it seems some insurance companies were leaving market because people would sign up for a month or two to avoid paying penalty then they would stop paying for the insurance.
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