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Old 03-05-2008, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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More American jobs are going offshore and workers are without. Thanks to the Pentagon and the Air Force for giving the Northrop Grumann the contract. $40Billion contract given to foreign contractors. Who in the hell is in charge of the nuts in Washington?

Boeing/aerospace | Public airing of tanker issues urged | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:28 PM
 
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blame those darn canadians for trying to influence the US elections and free trade


and ratting on obama !!
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Well Mobile, Alabama is supposed to be making out on this deal. They will assemble them all in Mobile. And it will support more than 25,000 jobs in the U.S. I know with Boeing, it was going to be about 40,000 jobs, but it's not like the U.S. isn't getting anything.
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Mobile, Alabama
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How many people drive Honda, Toyota and Nissan? Did they think about American workers when they did not buy a car made by an American company?
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Earth
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How many of you support "free markets?" That's what you get.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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I did not read the article but heard this issue being discussed on NPR yesterday. The report said that the Pentagon was following protocol when reviewing bids and awards to the best bidder (presumably in terms of price or suitability of the product with respect to the project) without considering any job impacts it might have because that adds a "subjective" element to the bid process which makes the bid process then not as objective as it should be. I think this position comes into play if two local companies were to bid for the same project...which state would you disenfranchise with job loss. This then becomes an even hairier issue.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:20 AM
 
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The #1 reason?

Unions.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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The #1 reason?

Unions.
Yeah it’s always those darn unions wanting safe working areas for their people, benefits like management gets, and wages that will provide a working class living in this country. Those people are just taking too much from American manufactures and companies. Thus move everything offshore and we’ll not have to worry about the unions. There won’t be any jobs in the country providing any of the above mentioned issues. Maybe we could offshore management as well and cut costs even more for those few companies left here. Seems the corporate leaders are getting their hands full of corporate money before the stockholders and employees receive their earnings. CEO earnings are 440 times more then the average employee salary within their company. However that's not what this thread is about, it's about offshore and government contracts.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: America
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How many people drive Honda, Toyota and Nissan? Did they think about American workers when they did not buy a car made by an American company?
if American companies would stop making inferior cars, maybe Americans would buy them.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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This is ridiculous! Airbus is basically a socialized jobs program for Europeans. It is nothing like Toyota, Nissan, or other foreign automobile manufacturers.

Their loans are insured by their donor countries, so they can float disasters like the A380 at no risk to themselves or their bottom line. Boeing does recieve government subsidies, but there's no way in hell you can compare the two companies. We are PAYING FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS to build our essential military support aircraft!! This is not free market or globalism, it's simple lunacy.

No doubt the military had no choice but to buy the cheapest aircraft they could find, thanks to the massive budget drain of supporting the war in Iraq, but I still can't believe that the government would allow this.

Hopefully it's all just for show. The Legislative or the Executive branch had darn well better WAKE UP and stop this nonsense! Those planes should be made by an American company!
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