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Old 04-01-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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Bottom line is this. If your party doesn't back off the extremism it won't win another national election. Normal working folks don't care about the rabid left's pet issues or identity politics.
Weird. I remember people telling folks that on the right for YEARS now. And yet....

Sorry, but you thinking that somehow I believe you on this, is just nonsense. The "rabbid" left isn't that rabbid really. But they are paying attention now.

If your party doesn't actually act like they are going to govern in some sensible way without constant scandals every darn week, it won't win another national election. Normal folks DO care about the sort of nonsense occurring. And even folks on the right are disgusted by some of it.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:01 PM
 
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Weird. I remember people telling folks that on the right for YEARS now. And yet....

Sorry, but you thinking that somehow I believe you on this, is just nonsense. The "rabbid" left isn't that rabbid really. But they are paying attention now.

If your party doesn't actually act like they are going to govern in some sensible way without constant scandals every darn week, it won't win another national election. Normal folks DO care about the sort of nonsense occurring. And even folks on the right are disgusted by some of it.
Folks on the right are disgusted by today's American liberals. If you don't like it I would suggest moderating your extremism.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:13 PM
 
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Bottom line is this. If your party doesn't back off the extremism it won't win another national election. Normal working folks don't care about the rabid left's pet issues or identity politics.
If Trump keeps losing it he won't even last 4 years. He has no idea what he is doing or how our government works. He thought he would run this country all by himself and the party would just fall behind him and his decisions. He thinks people are being disloyal to him. He is learning the hard way and has so much more to learn. Congress works for us not Trump. Him going after the freedom caucus was extremely pathetic and is going to backfire on him. What kind of president goes to war with their own party. He has alienated and insulted democrats and his own party members. He makes this about him. Not a great to start a presidency. And because of this nothing will get done.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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LOL. The Republicans are being laughed at too, and arent able to understand it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K5Yr5VPzq4


This is now called laughing
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Yes yes, you've accused folks of crying for their binkies. Its such a convincing argument. And I am personally devastated by it. I don't know how I will continue.

Oh yes I do.

LOL.


Which brings us full circle in the banter...
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Russians love nothing more than to laugh, at someone elses expense.
They are jolly people.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:16 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta Metro
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Unfortunately, what it's going to take for some of these hard headed GOPers and the Trump cult to accept the seriousness of what has happened to U.S. democracy is for Russian hacked leaks to target them.
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:29 PM
 
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Unfortunately, what it's going to take for some of these hard headed GOPers and the Trump cult to accept the seriousness of what has happened to U.S. democracy is for Russian hacked leaks to target them.
Press 2.
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Old 04-02-2017, 04:20 AM
 
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Folks on the right are disgusted by today's American liberals. If you don't like it I would suggest moderating your extremism.
Yep, but instead of them looking in the mirror they'll continue to blame Russia and they'll keep losing. And here we are, after their losing 1000 seats, they are still being hard headed.

If Hillary was a strong candidate who would have spoke of policies people liked nothing would have made a difference.
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Old 04-02-2017, 04:45 AM
 
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Unfortunately, what it's going to take for some of these hard headed GOPers and the Trump cult to accept the seriousness of what has happened to U.S. democracy is for Russian hacked leaks to target them.
Fortunately for them, the leaks/targeting won't happen to them as long as the have a candidate that is pro-Russia and siding with Russia.

If anyone is jolly because they were on the favored side of Russia, I think it's time for a little introspection. The U.S. has actually been played by Russia with the cooperation of some of our citizens.
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Old 04-02-2017, 04:54 AM
 
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Fortunately for them, the leaks/targeting won't happen to them as long as the have a candidate that is pro-Russia and siding with Russia.

If anyone is jolly because they were on the favored side of Russia, I think it's time for a little introspection. The U.S. has actually been played by Russia with the cooperation of some of our citizens.
Played but Russia ---> Putin loves hearing Liberals denounce Trump's presidency.
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Old 04-02-2017, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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And you would have probably chosen to not vote. Or more likely during the Primaries, voted for someone else. And that's kind of my point. People made their voting choices, I do not feel that dealing with Russian interference changes anything. Trump remains president, because people decided to vote. But this interference needs to be stopped.


I have a difficult time sharing your outrage simply because what was done only had a detrimental effect because it reveled the truth about the Clinton campaign working behind the scenes to cheat in the election with help from a supposedly neutral DNC and news organizations that submitted reports to the campaign for approval and editing, effectively becoming part of the campaign.


Should all that have been kept secret?
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