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McConnell didn't deny Obama anything. Obama gets to make a selection and the senate can then either vote or not. Nothing on the constitution mandates that they vote.
Reid is the one who got rid of the filibuster in 2013 for all lower judgeships. McConnell will just be following in his footsteps. If Reid had a majority in 2016 he would have waived the 60 cloture vote for scouts then, but he was the minority party.
Acting like garland is required to have a vote is partisan politicking at its best.
Like obama said in 08, elections have consequences. Stop acting like only one branch of government matters in scouts appointments. The senate is equally as important as the executive.
So there is no problem with Democrats choosing not to vote for Gorsuch.
I don't care if the GOP takes the nuclear option, I think they will regret it later.
I think quite the opposite is true. There is distinct possibility Trump may replace Kennedy, Ginsburg and Breyer. One of them or all three and it's also unlikely the Democrats will regain the Senate in 2018. If they force the issue with Gorsuch there will be no mercy if those nominations come up. They would be wise to allow the Gorsuch nomination to go through and save the fight for those nominations where they will have more leverage.
I think quite the opposite is true. There is distinct possibility Trump may replace Kennedy, Ginsburg and Breyer. One of them or all three and it's also unlikely the Democrats will regain the Senate in 2018. If they force the issue with Gorsuch their will be no mercy if those nominations come up. They would be wise to allow the Gorsuch nomination to go through and save the fight for those nominations where they will have more leverage.
Please. The GOP would just force it later. No one has any illusions that the GOP would do anything different later - COME ON. Why would Democrats believe that?! The GOP has shown they will just do the nuclear option whenever the Democrats disagree, there is no point in pretending.
Go ahead Dems and vote for the Filibuster. You will make it so much easier to nominate a hard Right candidate next time when one of the old Liberals die off.
IMO whether the Dems did that then or not, the GOP would not change their actions now. The GOP was doing anything they could to cripple Obama. The GOP will likely go the nuclear option and if history is any factor, the Dems will use it against the GOP down the road. It is what it is. The Dems are fully aware of this and figure, if they get a more liberal judge on the court later, the GOP can't complain, especially if they were the ones to invoke the nuclear option first. And the GOP knows that too.
"The GOP was doing anything they could to cripple Obama"
WRONG!
The issue is Supreme Court nominations.
Did they threaten to filibuster Obama's nominations?
Did they vote strictly along party lines against his nominations?
Sotomayor is one of the MOST LIBERAL SC justices in modern history and sh was NOT blocked.
"In May 2009, President Barack Obamanominated Sotomayor to the Supreme Court following the retirement of Justice David Souter. Her nomination was confirmed by the Senate in August 2009 by a vote of 68–31."
Go ahead Dems and vote for the Filibuster. You will make it so much easier to nominate a hard Right candidate next time when one of the old Liberals die off.
This is not a battle they want to win this week.
There is no reason to believe that wouldn't happen anyway so by all means, do it. This is not a threat. Democrats just see the reality of it so what's the GOP waiting for?
Please. The GOP would just force it later. No one has any illusions that the GOP would do anything different later - COME ON. Why would Democrats believe that?! The GOP has shown they will just do the nuclear option whenever the Democrats disagree, there is no point in pretending.
"The GOP has shown they will just do the nuclear option whenever the Democrats disagree, there is no point in pretending."
OK, when was the LAST TIME to GOP Senate used the nuclear option for a SC judge?
"The GOP was doing anything they could to cripple Obama"
WRONG!
The issue is Supreme Court nominations.
Did they threaten to filibuster Obama's nominations?
Did they vote strictly along party lines against his nominations?
Sotomayor is one of the MOST LIBERAL SC justices in modern history and sh was NOT blocked.
"In May 2009, President Barack Obamanominated Sotomayor to the Supreme Court following the retirement of Justice David Souter. Her nomination was confirmed by the Senate in August 2009 by a vote of 68–31."
So the GOP wouldn't even have hearings for Garland a year before. That's fine, the GOP owns everything now. Let them go nuclear and the Democrats can wait their turn and put in anyone they choose. It's not like Democrats don't know what's happening. They are fully aware. And there is zero reason to believe the GOP wouldn't just do this later with another judge. Do it.
The GOP reaps what they sow. I don't care if the GOP takes the nuclear option, I think they will regret it later. What they did with the Merrick Garland nomination and frankly eight years of GOP lockstep actions warrants being treated in kind. As a Dem, I don't mind seeing this one bit. Maybe Gorsuch will pass, maybe he won't but the GOP needs to expect they will be treated the same way they treated Dems the last eight years. No apologies.
Considering that the GOP Congress capitulated on virtually every demand made by the Obama and company, it'd be a refreshing change if the liberal chyldren members of Congress even acted civilally towards their GOP counterparts and the Trump administration.
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